Some people simply don't feel like their existence has meaning unless they're gatekeeping something that they don't even own. Morons. If the dish is good, then it's good.
Before I read any of these comments I know there’s going to be somebody who says something like …. My grandma born in Italy in 1929 says her mom taught her carbonara when she was a little girl
I think there is a difference between “original” and “authentic” most agree the home of the dish is Rome, therefore I’d say the Roman version is authentic, although it may differ from the way it was done generations ago. But I don’t agree with being dogmatic and I don’t think “inauthentic” is necessarily bad when it comes to food. Even in Rome chefs will all have their own touches.
I think what you’ve got here is a fantastic example of survivorship bias. Not immediately saying you’re wrong, just that you’re looking in the wrong place; go to Italy and ask some nonagenarian nonnas (pun deffo intended) where it came from; that’ll give you a better perspective.
Out of all food cultures, italians are so annoying about it. They seemingly refuse to acknowledge that italian Americans naturally changed recipes to fit their new surroundings and they cannot comprehend changing a dish at all.
my only beef when talking about carbonara is if it isnt the “traditional” method, just call it something else so I know because I’ve been disappointed ordering a Carbonara to get something with creme and mushrooms. Guess what though? I LIKE THOSE THINGS, it was a nice pasta, but that isn’t what I had the craving for. If the menu said “Spaghetti with Guanciale, Creme and Mushroom” on a different day I would have ordered that in a heartbeat.
Is this video based on the work of Alberto Grandi, the Italian historian whose life‘s work seems to be demystifying the Italian „traditional foods“ narratives?
Lmfao fucking Jannies deleted my previous comment for hate speech. (Against who, food snobs?) Basically I said fuck people who obsess over food like the seezunin police etc. YouTube is so gay now everything is sanitized and infantilized. Can’t even shit-talk normies anymore. Clean this shitpost up, jannies!!! 💩💩💩💩💩💩
I was once watching Italia Squisita and saw one particularly dogmatic-looking old Italian chef insist that carbonara should never contain garlic.
Since I love garlic, I decided to test this for myself. Tasting them side by side, that was when I learned my personal only single "gospel rule" for carbonara.
It should, first and foremost, IMHO always be an egg sauce.
Adding garlic turns it into a "garlic egg sauce", which is fine in its own way, but I'll personally never add garlic to carbonara ever again.
That said, another "rule" is to never mix chilli and pepper and this is a rule I break all the time.
First published recipe don’t mean origin. That’s the equivalent of first to the patent office is the creator. Even if it existed long before hand. To me Authentic is the the most basic version widely accepted by its place of origin
As an Italian, I am pretty annoyed by the way shouty italians and other people portray Italians on the internet. Italy loves food and has good recipes but that's only because of people changing dishes and experimenting???? If it works and tastes good it's nice. This 'authentic' stuff is barely existant in Italy
I used to cook carbonara (what I thought was carbonara) with a white sauce, till I was told I was making Alfredo. I found the so-called “authentic recipe” on many YouTube videos and am happy to say, I like it a lot more. I can’t say I’ve perfected it, but when it goes right it tastes amazing!!!
Italians are so insufferable when it comes to authenticity because most of them are either outright wrong or don't realize Italy has a lot of regional variety in dishes because of their segregated history. It's so grating listening to it!
To be fair, a lot of the early written recipes appear to [unsurprisingly] have avoided asking actual working class Romans – the purism is about cultural reclamation post World Wars…
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Some people simply don't feel like their existence has meaning unless they're gatekeeping something that they don't even own. Morons. If the dish is good, then it's good.
italiens are full of shite when it comes to cooking.
just the facts.
Before I read any of these comments I know there’s going to be somebody who says something like …. My grandma born in Italy in 1929 says her mom taught her carbonara when she was a little girl
Lol Caesar salad is older than carbonara?! 😂
Conservatives would do anything to prevent innovation and creativity
Just as long as you don’t put peas in it
I think I'm hungry 🤦… Nothings open… Need Food…🤤
Italians and their obnoxious pride smh
Add crème
Please keep making this kind of food history(with different recipes) content…
Hopefully there will be more content creator like this gentleman…
So thank you 🙏🏻
I think there is a difference between “original” and “authentic” most agree the home of the dish is Rome, therefore I’d say the Roman version is authentic, although it may differ from the way it was done generations ago.
But I don’t agree with being dogmatic and I don’t think “inauthentic” is necessarily bad when it comes to food. Even in Rome chefs will all have their own touches.
Who cares about italians 😂😂? Do what you want
I think what you’ve got here is a fantastic example of survivorship bias.
Not immediately saying you’re wrong, just that you’re looking in the wrong place; go to Italy and ask some nonagenarian nonnas (pun deffo intended) where it came from; that’ll give you a better perspective.
Speaking as an Italian: we are the most insufferable pedants when it comes to “authenticity”
I don't know why carbonara purists are out here letting the sugared marinaras fly
Out of all food cultures, italians are so annoying about it. They seemingly refuse to acknowledge that italian Americans naturally changed recipes to fit their new surroundings and they cannot comprehend changing a dish at all.
my only beef when talking about carbonara is if it isnt the “traditional” method, just call it something else so I know because I’ve been disappointed ordering a Carbonara to get something with creme and mushrooms. Guess what though? I LIKE THOSE THINGS, it was a nice pasta, but that isn’t what I had the craving for. If the menu said “Spaghetti with Guanciale, Creme and Mushroom” on a different day I would have ordered that in a heartbeat.
I will never trust an American who talks about ‘tradition’ or ‘authenticity’ of foods
If it tastes good, fills me up, and isn’t poison then I’m satisfied. Authentic or whatever.
Is this video based on the work of Alberto Grandi, the Italian historian whose life‘s work seems to be demystifying the Italian „traditional foods“ narratives?
Lmfao fucking Jannies deleted my previous comment for hate speech. (Against who, food snobs?) Basically I said fuck people who obsess over food like the seezunin police etc. YouTube is so gay now everything is sanitized and infantilized. Can’t even shit-talk normies anymore. Clean this shitpost up, jannies!!! 💩💩💩💩💩💩
Lionfield ruined a whole generation of Italians.
I was once watching Italia Squisita and saw one particularly dogmatic-looking old Italian chef insist that carbonara should never contain garlic.
Since I love garlic, I decided to test this for myself. Tasting them side by side, that was when I learned my personal only single "gospel rule" for carbonara.
It should, first and foremost, IMHO always be an egg sauce.
Adding garlic turns it into a "garlic egg sauce", which is fine in its own way, but I'll personally never add garlic to carbonara ever again.
That said, another "rule" is to never mix chilli and pepper and this is a rule I break all the time.
If it taste good I will consider it authentic. Does "authentic" even matter if the food taste like dog shit ?
First published recipe don’t mean origin. That’s the equivalent of first to the patent office is the creator. Even if it existed long before hand. To me Authentic is the the most basic version widely accepted by its place of origin
Where's BauhiBoy
the thing is it makes a huge difference if you actually cook is "traditionally", because its so much better
As an Italian, I am pretty annoyed by the way shouty italians and other people portray Italians on the internet. Italy loves food and has good recipes but that's only because of people changing dishes and experimenting???? If it works and tastes good it's nice. This 'authentic' stuff is barely existant in Italy
I used to cook carbonara (what I thought was carbonara) with a white sauce, till I was told I was making Alfredo. I found the so-called “authentic recipe” on many YouTube videos and am happy to say, I like it a lot more. I can’t say I’ve perfected it, but when it goes right it tastes amazing!!!
Italians are so insufferable when it comes to authenticity because most of them are either outright wrong or don't realize Italy has a lot of regional variety in dishes because of their segregated history. It's so grating listening to it!
Sooooooo it’s technically an American dish, and when the Italians released it in a cookbook, they got it horribly wrong…..
Chalk up another win for United States I guess.
To be fair, a lot of the early written recipes appear to [unsurprisingly] have avoided asking actual working class Romans – the purism is about cultural reclamation post World Wars…