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In this video, I am going to challenge one of the biggest assumptions in wine: that some wines aren’t ‘meant’ to age. We will taste aged wine styles that are usually more celebrated for their youthfulness and see what time has really done to them.
**WINES TASTED IN THIS VIDEO:
🍷 2010 Claude Branger Domaine la Haute Fevrie Muscadet Sevre-et-Maine Sur Lie Gras Moutons, Loire, France
https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/claude+brangero+dom+la+haut+fevrie+sur+lies+gras+mouton+muscadet+sevre+maine+pays+nantaise+loire+france/2010/
🍷 2000 Alphonse Mellot Sancerre ‘Edmond’, Loire, France
https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/alphonse+mellot+edmond+sancerre+upper+loire+france/2000/
🍷 2011 Chateau du Moulin-a-Vent ‘Moulin-a-Vent’ Les Verillats, Beaujolais, France
https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/chateaudumoulinavent+les+verillats+moulin+a+vent+beaujolais+france/2011/
🍷 2005 Domaine Marcel Deiss Altenberg de Bergheim, Alsace Grand Cru, France
https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/dom+marcel+deiss+altenburg+de+bergheim+alsace+grand+cru+france/2005/
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**CONTENTS OF THIS VIDEO:
0:00 Can “Drink-Now” Wines Age?
3:00 Wine 1
6:35 Wine 2
10:12 Wine 3
14:45 Wine 4
21:08 Conclusion
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39 Comments
Gosh, I felt the hurt😅
Great video. I find my wine app is way too conservative in its suggestion for drinking windows.. I’m with you, when you have something exciting you expect to be wonderful and it’s corked, it is so disappointing.
Great topic to explore! For me it’s almost always the other way around. I drink wines where all the snobs go „How could you! Its too young.“ 😉
Nice choice of books at 1:59! Read the whole series on top and bottom and am currently reading the middle one. Accompanied by the best red I had so far! 😊
Good video. I enjoy both aged Muscadet and aged Sauvignon, so we agree there – sorry about the tca. Moulin a Vent was one of my ageing failures, too – a 1978 that hadn't been stored well, drunk in the early 1990s. Pleased about the Alsace as I have a 1996 Riesling Vendage Tardive in the cellar – hope it's still ok. I do not agree with you about drinking windows, provided you understand the merchant's biases. Mine has conservative end dates, so I know I am safe for another five years or so. I find windows really useful and usually a good guide.
Exciting video. I love your approach on this topic and your sincere reactions. Certainly a subject that is discussed a lot.
Marcel Deiss has been one of my favourite wine makers for over 20 years.
The cameraman was in a no-win situation! Keep up the good work! Loved the authentic reaction!
Hello from California again! Absolutely loved this video. (Especially your natural reaction to the "corked" wine where you broke straight into Latvian and provided the translation so we don't feel left behind 😁.) Being new to wine, I have thankfully not experienced "corked" wine yet and don't know exactly how I would know 🤔. (Fingers crossed.)
I love the idea of not having to age wines to enjoy them. However I purchased a Nebbiolo, a Syrah, and a Bordeaux that I have not opened yet. Want to give them a year. Thank you so much for your wonderful, thoughtful, intelligent and entertaining video content. Wonderful channel. Your podcast interviews are always wonderful as well! Cheers!🍷
absolutely love alsace. amazingly low prices for top quality wines
Personally, I find this sort of myth-busting video more interesting than blind tastings. Too bad that two of the bottles were "uncooperative." It's my experience that wines with any medium, or greater, level of acidity or tannins can age for a fairly long time. White wines, in particular, soften and become more elegant with some bottle age. I don't usually open Bordeaux Blanc or village-level Chablis younger than 5 years. Even less-expensive rosés are better at 3+ years (Domaine Tempier, 5+)..
Im glad you left that corked wine part in the video. When you store and age wine there will always be a corked bottle here and there, its part of the game.
I felt your pain as I recently had a similar experience with a highly anticipated wine during a blind tasting of old world vs new world Chardonnay that I hosted. It was the one that I was most looking forward to 😢. Love Alsace!
Great idea for a video! It didn't pan out how you had hoped, but it's all part of the wine-lover's journey, isn't it? Very relatable!
For Pinot Gris, I've had absolutely transcendent experience with aged bottles from Domaine Ostertag, in Alsace.
As for Gamay, the Morgon Côte du Py by Jean Foillard will age beautifully and retain those primary characteristics for a long time – and it can also develop deep, earthy tertiary aromas after a good number of years.
I loved this video! I love a place like Rioja, where you can get some real age without crazy patience or dollars required.
Hi Agnes, I loved the video, the idea for it and your reaction, this is what matters, being original!!
I myself am building a cellar back home in Brazil (I live in Portugal, so, every travel a load up my luggage) and plan to drink those bottles in 8+ years.
Thanks for your work!
Acceptable aging requires so many things to go correct ! First the terroir, wine maker, weather at the harvest and aging process ! Your Alsace Grand Cru had a pedigree that eventually shines through ✅✅!
For me, Muscade, Sancerre and Chenin are meant for oysters and shellfish. I have always enjoyed them young. I have no idea what the evolution of tertiary flavors would do to the match. To me, they are all about freshness. What do you think?
I love Beaujolais. Aging is all about the maker and the potential of the climat. This is one of the reasons I embrace a restaurant’s sommelier or my favorite wine shop for intel.
Grand Cru by definition is age-able. Sometimes, like with Burgundy, it is about waiting long enough. I bought a three-pack of 2013 Louis Jadot Clos Vougeot Grand Cru after a wine dinner last year. A month or so later I opened one of the bottles and it never opened up. It was good, but I felt I had committed infanticide. It reminded me of what I have sometimes experienced with young Bordeaux and its “dumb phase.” I will try another bottle in a few years.
My craziest experience was tasting Sancerre Rose 1986 and 1980. Still alive.
As for white Sancerre, the oldest vintage I've tasted was 1976. It was a magnum tasted blind. Most people guessed it was 2006-2010.
In 2020 I had a bottle of the Trimbach Riesling Cuvée Frédéric Emile 1990. One of the best wines I ever have tasted!
I had a Beaujolias Nouveau from '99 in 2019… It wasnt the worst thing ive ever had.
I had a 2016 white entre deux mers that my grandma forgot in her cellar over Christmas. I think it was on the decline, but was shocked by the fact it wasn't totally shit!
I think a bit of oak probably helps white wines. It was very oxidized and almost reminded me of a Jura wine. Not as good as a good Jura, though. :p
I love wines both young and old and waiting for years doesn´t always make wines better. That said very often the drinking windows for so many wines end insanely early. Grüner Veltliner is a variety I so often hear how it´s made to drink young and most is but when made by talented wine makers at the top end these wines with venerable age on them can be just amazing!
Why would you give shade to your cameraman when you asked him not to tell you if there was a defect ? Own it
Perfect reaction and so glad you didn't edit out the Latvian dialog. Sorry about the wine being corked, but we love your vids and these things happen
My Beaujolais Nouveau ages for up to 6 months. That way I only have to go for 6 months without it 😅
Cork taint is why cork salesmen are so unfriendly.
I would like to share a story. I recently came bck from SEA and found a small, unassuming wine shop selling small collection but broad selections of wine. U bought a 2009 Calvesan (not sure of its spelling) Barolo. Store keeper said the bottle is old, label is peeling off so they decide to sell for cheap. To my suprise, after decanting it fir 3hrs, the floral notes starts to come out and it was not corked. So this corked wine can happen to any bottle. Its unfortunate if you bought an expensive one.
I am so glad you did this video. It's my experience that a well made wine with reasonable acid and reasonably balanced flavors can age a while even if it's not made to be a vin de garde. I had a 7 year old Peter Michael sauv blanc the other day that was rocking along like a fine white Bordeaux and could go another decade despite being a more ripe wine from sunny Knights Valley. I despise sauv blanc that wasn't allowed to become fully ripe (while still retaining acid). I won't touch New Zealand but will drink up Sancerre and white Bordeaux. Beaujolais has been a huge blind spot for me and I'm only just getting more experience. Cheers!
Super interesting and well made video! Thank you!👏✨
You know about the plastic wrap trick for corked wine?
I've had a couple of insane 8-10? yr old Cloudy Bays… 🙂
Canadian reds can age incredibly well. Looking forward to the few remaining 30+ YO bottles in my cellar…
ct moulin a vent really is petit pinot. gamay can wear many hats.
I recently reopened and tasted a 2021 Chateau Ste. Michelle Dry Riesling that had a ~1 glass remaining and was originally opened half a year ago and kept in the refrigerator under its own cork (no Coravin). While it still had some fruit and floral qualities, it developed an intriguing honey note in addition to apricot that my dining companion, who really enjoys primary fruit and floral notes over more typical tertiary characteristics. I know that Riesling has great aging potential, but a nicely-made entry-level version showing such durability to oxygen exposure is really impressive! Troy'sTastingRoom tried this same wine with DECADES age (bought from auction), and he noted that it was amazing in quality!
In contrast, I had a 2022 Henri Bourgeois Pouilly Fume La Porte De L'Abbaye (a wine ~3x more than the aforementioned Riesling) that I had intentionally exercised a little bit of patience (only just under 2 years), but it literally tasted and smelled overwhelmingly of cheap liquor with no fruit or minerality. Fortunately, it is one of very few bottles of wines that were faulty (the retailer fortunately credited me for the bottle). Goes to show that ageability is not dependent on price or price tier!
I really feel your pain regarding that corked wine, especially if this was one of your expensive wines. Your expression of disappointment was so real! You can intellectually get ready for all kinds of other tertiary changes with an aged wine, but cork taint is almost like a slap in the face! I’ve got some bottles of Pepiere Clos de Briords put away, hopefully waiting for some kind of miraculous change. I also tend to short term cellar my natural wines for at least a year, hopefully to reduce mousiness
Champagne, opened a couple of 2008 recently, they were fantastic, could have aged longer, but I had a thirst.
Viva la screw cap! db
I like your dog. It’s full body and it’s aging very well.
I believe many wine 'experts,' including MS and MWs, often miss the mark on a crucial point. They tend to judge aging potential or drinking windows by tasting already-aged bottles or comparing different vintages.
However, to truly talk about a wine’s evolution, one must taste the same wine from the same vintage across different timelines. These experts have the passion, resources to do this, yet they seem to avoid the time-consuming nature of such long-term tracking. A series comparing a tasting video from 3-5-10-15 years ago with a present-day tasting of the same bottle would be incredibly fascinating and much more accurate.
That said, I love your passion for the wine as always.