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I have used this glass in this Video: Gabriel StandART
I have tasted the following wines in this Video:
2017 Weingut Keller Niersteiner Pettenthal Riesling Grosses Gewachs, Rheinhessen, Germany:
https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/keller+pettental+riesling+grosses+gewachs+nierstein+rheinterrasse+rheinessen+germany/2017?referring_site=KSB
2019 Anne et Jean-Francois Ganevat Cotes du Jura ‘Montferrand’ Savagnin Jura, France:
https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/anne+jean+francois+ganevat+monferrand+savagnin+cote+du+jura+france/2019?referring_site=KSB
2012 R. Lopez de Heredia Vina Tondonia Reserva Blanco, Rioja DOCa, Spain:
https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/r+lopez+de+heredia+vina+tondonia+rsrv+blanco+doca+rioja+alta+spain/2012?referring_site=KSB
2015 Clos Rougeard Le Clos Saumur-Champigny AOP:
https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/clos+rougeard+saumur+champigny+anjou+loire+france/2015?referring_site=KSB
The 100 Point Scoring System (from www.robertparker.com):
96-100: An extraordinary wine of profound and complex character displaying all the attributes expected of a classic wine of its variety. Wines of this caliber are worth a special effort to find, purchase and consume.
90 – 95: An outstanding wine of exceptional complexity and character. In short, these are terrific wines.
80 – 89: A barely above average to very good wine displaying various degrees of finesse and flavor as well as character with no noticeable flaws.
70 – 79: An average wine with little distinction except that it is soundly made. In essence, a straightforward, innocuous wine.
60 – 69: A below-average wine containing noticeable deficiencies, such as excessive acidity and/or tannin, an absence of flavor or possibly dirty aromas or flavors.
50 – 59: A wine deemed to be unacceptable.
At the beginning of my wine career I heard of these iconic wineries like the classed growths from Bordeaux, the famous estates from Burgundy and the best producers from the other classic regions and I dreamt of one day tasting them all. Today I have tasted most of these cult wines, and that’s why I know a something many people know: They are just wines …
Of course, most of them are very well made, otherwise they wouldn’t be able to charge insane prices, but not all of them are actually exciting.
As I progressed in my winetasting, I started looking for other experiences than in the beginning. And today, I often get more enjoyment from tasting under the radar grape varieties from unknown regions than trying some of these Cult wines.
Many Sommeliers feel the same way and but instead of really searching for undiscovered gems, they have created a different category of cult wines. Most of them are high quality just like regular Cult Wines but they are not as mainstream – they are different. What is different about them, is that they usually come from smaller estates, are made in a low intervention way and are often hard to find. They tend to be more expensive but they are not marketed as luxury products.
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We have the Rioja red and for its type it does amazingly well. I showed an elderly Spanish gal our riojas and she made a beeline right to it.
The wine with the biggest cult following in Australia: Wendouree for sure. And their famous shiraz is only $70 if purchased directly from them! But on the secondary market their wines are 4 times the price.
The process of acquiring their wine is wild too. Every year you receive an order form in the mail, and your order is only processed after you send that original form to them by post.
Grasparossa is the most tannic of all the Lambrusco varietals and really stands out from all the others
usually prefer to choose for myself unless I am not familiar with the wines. That would be rare!
Wait a gosh darn minute! You mean to say that the most passionate and educated people in our industry can’t afford quality made, low production, and family made wines? And that those same knowledgeable wine stewards can’t even come close to affording to buy, or even tasting, the “definitional” wines they sell??? How shocking that these legendary wines, and wine in general, are falling out of favor. I've been in the fine wine industry for over a decade and the thought of getting to taste most of these "quintessential" or “definitional" producers is laughable in today’s markets at best. It's no wonder that the majority of those of us still suffering in this industry choose to drink and sell much different wines than the professionals who came before us.
Interesting to see Savagnin featured. I just left the Jura yesterday and only had the opportunity to try the non-oxidative version once. While the oxidative wines fro. Stephane Tissot were unique and interesting. Domaine Ratte were kind enough to open their winery yesterday for a tasting of their low intervention Arbois wines, i can recommend trying them if you can get ahold of them.
What about the red Tondonia? I've had it twice (1981, 2007) and was disappointed both times.
I'm guessing the candy is werther's original, the hard butterscotch flavour lolly. It's well known in english speaking countries.
Living in London, I don't bother going down the wine list at restaurants. Mark-ups are 200-300%. If you order by the glass they will give you 75ml and pretend it's 125ml. If I want proper wine I drink it at home or, even better, take my own wine to a restaurant with a reasonable corkage policy.
Great video
Rougeard is one of a kind, sadly in my knowledge 2015 is the last vintage by Focault brothers.
Hard to find but if you see one grab one as many as you can 🍇
I love everything from Lopez – the way they age their wines always ensures an interesting tasting.
It would be fun if you tried some Moschofilero! Troupis Winery makes excellent and really affordable wines. Their wild fermented rosé is amazing
I like someliers recomendations and after , I do my juiz
With Sommeliers Michelins I learn a lot , because in this restaurants I will find diferentes and unics wines
How can it be, better videos each time!! The best wine channel in the world right now!
Clos Rougeard is a jewel in my opinion. I discovered it quite late but was lucky enough to enjoy Le Clos, Les Poyeux and the regular Saumur Champigny. I remember a 2005 which was a pure beauty. I would like very much yo try this Keller Riesling – German Rieslings are so exciting and quite underrated
Hey Konstantin, do you get any flack from big wine names for keeping things so real on your channel?
I usually shorten a list and then if I need to zero in on the right wine, then I consult the sommelier. To get their advice on the final selection.
Great and super interesting episode!!!
I think other wines that might be considered "SOMMELIER CULTS" are the wines from Pierre Yves Colin Morey and Caroline Morey.
Pettenthal is just out of this world fantastic and definitely more than 96 points.
Loved the video, as I guessed you also did making it! My experience with sommelier suggestions is on the opposite spectrum; I remember once we wanted to combine some Greek smoked cheese and cured meat with Dalamaras Kapnistos (which translates to Dalamaras Smoked), a unique blend of Malagouzia & Assyrtiko from Northern Greece that’s oxidised (hence the kapnistos), and the sommelier was actually quite hesitant to offer it to us, suggesting it’s a very ‘unique’ cult wine and we wouldn’t enjoy it as much. Needless to say we tried it, and were genuinely surprised at how wonderful it was (try it with pasta and Cretan apaki, an equivalent to smoked cured pancetta, you’ll remember me).
Gotta let this savagnin breathe a little
Great video👍 what would be the perfect food pairing with Tondonia?
You should mention that this Ganevat is a négoce wine. These labels are the negoce wines with grapes coming from Jura but not from his estate… There's a HUGE difference in quality.
So much respect for your content. But why don't you respect wines from South Africa. Truly some of the best on earth surely! 3:22
May I ask about which wine glass were you used in this video?
Funny it’s just been said because I feel the same about Leon! I can see him driving around Europe in a Mercedes SUV, picking unusual wines for Baum. Man of mystery…
Thank you for sharing this video. I fell in love with Lopez de Heredia wines after tasting their Bosconia Reserva red a while ago. They care less what people think and still do things the old fashion way. I am not sure how they keep their prices reasonable, given that most of their wines are aged 10 years or more before release! I love their white wines too, but some are slightly oxidized and some tasters think the wine is off, but it's not.
One mistake he made is that you usually decant Ganevat wines.
Nice video like usual! I think that would be interest that you try some of the extreme wines from Argentina, for example Otronia Winery, the most austral proyect in the world in the 45º parallel (i recommend Otronia Block I Pinot Noir), and if we talk about extreme wines we need to talk about Colomé Winery, they have one of the most elevated vineyards in the world, Altura Máxima is about 3.111masl(10.207ft); also this wines can be catalog like "cult wines".
"The life of a Master of Wine is not always healthy. I live on pain au chocoat and wine…" so how do I sign up for this?
Intriguing and educational, thank you! The Fontana dei Boschi is not listed in the description?
Hi Konstantin, I'm planning to go to Cochem for the wine festival in 2 weeks and plan to cycle to Bernkastel-Kues. Are there vineyards (open to the public) you would recommend visiting?
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Another cool video and an interesting collection of wines. I have heard of most of them, though the Clos Rougeard was new for me. When I am in a restaurant I usually listen to the sommelier's opinion, though I do second guess my choice at times. I was at a wineries' restaurant in Villany, Hungary on vacation and had the baked trout. The menus' suggestion was a Riesling, but server's suggestion was a Chardonnay Battonage, it was an amazing wine. But would the Riesling have gone better with the trout, hmmm?
I totally agree with you that the excitement in wine is finding under the radar and underrated wines before they are discovered by the famous critics/magazines. I have been drinking Hungarian wine now for more than 10 years now and started with the famous and big wineries. But now with them receiving high scores from Decanter, Suckling and Parker, prices creeping up and availability going down, I am starting to discover small family and boutique wines/wineries. So far the results are pretty great. Also always on the lookout for emerging regions from the "traditional" countries e.g. France, Italy, Spain, Germany, Australia, etc.
I’m curious your opinion on Chateau Musar
Hi Konstantin,
First of all thank you for a great channel. Really like what you are doing.
I have a question about Vina Tondonia. I learned about this cult wine about 10 years ago and managed to get some bottles. I have a 2000 bianco reserva and 2 bottles of 2007 reserva. What kind of food pairing suggestions do you have and for how long can I save them before they turn bad? Drinking window?
I have them in a wine cooler .
Best regards
You should try some Saperavi wines!
Lovely episode!! I hope they were enjoyed after and didn’t shut down!!
I love that you included the Loire cabernet franc, I have never tasted one. Here in Hungary they produce quite a lot of franc, especially in Villány, but there are some excellent examples also from the Balaton region.
One suggestion for a future video – a blind tasting of low or no-alcohol wines vs their varietal pairs with alcohol in a similar price range. For example, a no alcohol Chardonnay vs a good “normal” Chardonnay in the same price category, perhaps for 3/4/5 different varietals. I would be extremely curious whether the alcohol free wines would be a real alternative for everyday drinking without alcohol, or when you have to drive.
I was hoping for Screaming Eagle 😂😂😂😂😂
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