To listen to the entire podcast episode, check out Green Eggs and Dan on,
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/green-eggs-and-dan/id1471389934
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4LMnms9hKrvTJYR5eceMvb
Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/podglomerate/green-eggs-and-dan
or wherever you listen to podcasts.