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2:50 – The Best Diet to Reduce Inflammation
10:20 – Food in America vs Europe
13:50 – Mediterranean Regions & Blue Zones
17:18 – How to Add a Mediterranean Flair to Your Diet
22:42 – Rates of Anxiety & Depression in US vs Other Countries
24:20 – Reducing Inflammation & Improving Mental Health
35:31 – Where to Find More of Dr. Naidoo’s Content
Dr um I do when you look at nutrition as a whole I think one thing that all nutritional camps seem to agree on whether it’s people that are carnivore maybe they’re vegan maybe they’re omnivores this and that is they all tend to agree that modulating inflammation is
A very important thing yes and you know you and I have been swimming in the research for a long time surrounding this particular diet and it seems to at least on paper and from my own anecdotal experience be very very good at modulating inflammation and you know
Before we kind of talk about the diet specifically like what is inflammation when we’re talking about it like from a dietary perspective I love that question because inflammation is is a word that often gets confused because the body has acute inflammation which happens when we fall over in sports and you know scrape
Our knee or we or we injure something and then the body has a whole system of helping that heal and that’s aute to inflammation but what we’re referring to when it comes to food is more chronic Insidious inflammation which builds up slowly over time and one of the ways it builds up is
Through a poor diet so eating the processed alra processed foods very sugary Foods um added and refined sugars those types of things um that we’ve we’ve spoken about in terms of driving even symptoms of anxiety um these can drive inflammation but the interesting thing about inflammation that’s really
Evolved over the last decade or so is that in mental health more and more research is showing that inflammation also drives conditions like anxiety depression cognitive disorders and more so it’s not just oh it’s causing some inflammation in your gut it’s actually also impacting your mental health so
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Below for a good one I I totally agree and it’s I mean you can feel it immediately when you’re eating something that’s not exactly good but you can feel it definitely more chronically when your diet has been consistently poor for a while yes and I think when we’re talking
About you know the quote unquote sort of best diet for reducing inflammation I think it’s a uh have to take kind of a big holistic look at it not just be like okay well the trick is to eat this this one particular food and I think the diet
We’re both talking about is the Mediterranean diet now that everyone’s heard what the diet is they’ll click off the video but I encourage you like want to break down the different components of it because I think there’s different elements of the Mediterranean diet that make it so key for modulating
Inflammation so it be interesting to kind of have some back and forth that you being you know Harvard trained psychiatrist and a nutritionist and a chef like you have a pretty good understanding of what’s happening in the brain and and maybe we can have some back and forth and I can talk about
What’s happening in the body I really like that and I appreciate you highlighting something that many people either you get the eye roll or oh it’s you know one more person saying eat the mediteran diet there’s so much more to it um the the um there was some recent
Research published uh early in 20 23 that in nutrients that actually showed that the Mediterranean diet also impacts mental well-being not just physical well-being and there have been some prior studies of that too um some of the focus of the other studies has been the actual composition of the Mediterranean
Diet which by the way is not just a plant forward diet it also has healthy fats certain types of meats or seafood um and a really good balance of things U and and I feel like what it’s talking about is getting us back to really a
Whole Foods diet which in the US we’ve moved away from so it’s a much it’s much more powerful term that we should be paying attention to and not just assuming that it’s something to be swept aside because I think it can actually help us yeah I agree and I think that
When you look at the Mediterranean diet it’s easy to think that this is um you know a very low meat diet and you look at the Mediterranean regions I mean it varies widely right I mean you’ve got it does certain regions that are consuming I don’t want to say copious amounts of
Meat but I mean we’re talking 30 to 40% protein like you know from from animal sources yes and that’s that’s not a small amount so and they seem to have the same sort of outcomes as some of these other more plant forward Mediterranean regions which kind of
Leads us to believe that well I’ll ask you I don’t know because it’s kind of uh it’s there’s no right or wrong answer right now because I don’t know if we have the literature but you know is the Mediterranean diet good because of what’s in it or is it good because of
What’s not in it I love that question I think it’s both and I’ll tell you why it focuses on the whole foods that we’ve forgotten how to eat I’ll tell you a funny story I don’t know if I’m allowed to call out a brand name but I um never knew what a popt
Was and it was the first time in my life that i’ ever encountered a food like that and it was fascinating to me cuz of course it tasted delicious until I real realized you know what went into it but this is an example of Sting grow growing
Up in a culture where breakfast was Savory and then being introduced to a very new food when I moved to Baston to study and it it’s speaks to the fact that there’s this process that you forget that you actually used to eat this wholesome breakfast um and maybe
You know you’re spoiled and your mom mom or your grandmother prepared it for you which in my case was true um but you you forget that and your mind suddenly gets into well when and I have this it’s so much easier it’s quick it’s it’s on the
Go kind of thing I feel like the Mediterranean diet is really almost in a way taking us back to those principles maybe that wasn’t the original intention but it’s a Whole Food’s diet there isn’t processed food in it um and I would argue that you know say that it has a
Certain type of legume in it and you buy black beans in a can or chickpeas in a can yes there’s some processing but you rinse them out and they actually sto the whole food they haven’t added a ton of stuff unless you buy a can that’s processed but I feel
That it sort of it encourages us to step back from processed foods and say why not lean into those plants why not have this healthy fat from the seafood why not have the nuts and seeds um you know and have the the grains that we should be eating because a certain amount of
The healthy grains are really important for our gut microbes um so I think it would be a bit of both yeah no I agree I in fact there’s a paper that I referenced in a video last week that I was filming and it was looking at the uh level of beta glucans
Which you’re obvious familiar with you know very important type of sort of I guess you would I guess you could call it a Prebiotic you could categorize it what would you categorize beta glucans as um usually I think of it as a Prebiotic yeah so it’s there looking at
Comparing like various forms of starting with refined wheat ranging all the way up to the highest levels of beta glucans in whole grain barley and it was very interesting to see the effects on inflammation and a number of other biomarkers just looking at the range like as the level of beta glucans went
Up and the less refined the grain became it really was very very positive impact whereas I think there’s a common theme out there that you know grain are a problem and I think grains certainly can be a problem they can be but it’s like how many of us like when was the last
Time most of us in the United States have had a half a cup or 3/4 of a cup of whole grain barley yes like really right you know so it’s so hard for us to like make a statement that’s accurate to say like well grains are problematic well
Okay we have to have context here you have to have context and and the processing the the the way that it’s made weat is the same same thing although that’s actually a whole a whole other situation but I agree with you there because I feel as though when in
The United States when we think about grains it’s it’s a very it’s a very my it’s a very limited spectrum of what we think about um it’s either highly processed oatmeal that people think about that’s more the instant version that has a lot of added you know
Unhealthy foods to it um or it’s exactly how often do see people go out and cook barley as their grain um I think quinoa has taken on a little bit more and it’s a great source of fiber and protein but sometimes people get a bit lost with
That and they’re not quite sure how to cook it but I you know I encourage I encourage people to do that um and in fact in my book calm your mind with food I have um a like a hot porridge like a like a it’s almost think oatmeal but
Made with quinoa because of the protein and uh the fiber content of it I want people to kind of get used to other ways of thinking about it and you literally make it directly from the grain um so context is extremely important so I appreciate that point yeah it’s I mean I
Think people think Mediterranean and another thing I mean I think culturally and just geographically how things are different too I’m not going to get go down the the glyphosate rabbit hole right now but obviously there’s a difference between even the levels of gluten and gadin in like true Italian or
European pasta compared to what’s here you and you’re a culinary expert so I mean I I’ve only heard this on the surface but is is that true like it’s food pretty different there so clinically I’ve actually had individuals who can eat bread in places like Hungary or other parts of Europe including
Italy um and not be able to consume local American bread I’ve also had individuals comment that if they eat a bowl of pasta at a restaurant in the United States for sure you know if they’ve added pasta to that week or a few times that week they they they going
To see their numbers on the scale increase they’re going to gain weight of feel a certain way including things like just feeling bloated or just uncomfortable um but they eat it and they enjoy they will go to Italy and eat pasta a portion size very different B
Made from scratch um see healthy fats added um and have pasta when they traveling it’ll come back and say I’m shocked Dr naid I did not gain 10 pounds I was I thought for sure I’m going to come back and be overweight but there’s definitely a difference and then there
Have been books written about the way that wheat has been um kind of engineered in this country and we know that the wheat product that we have in the United States is very different so I don’t know the facts of how the wheat is produced in Italy but it’s a healthier
Grain and and I know that from um people’s experience of how they can eat pasta how they can eat those grains or those uh really consume gluten in a different form overseas but they can’t do it here and uh I think it’s you know what we’ve
Done to yeah I agree I mean even if we get down to processed meat right in in Europe or Italy you’ve got you know pruto or paraham it’s a process meat right and on the surface you think okay well that’s exactly what is a carcinogen and exactly what we should avoid you’re
Like well their version of a processed meat is ham and salt yeah that’s that’s correct and and the way that they make their um their their hams and their prute and all of that is very different it it’s completely different it’s not doesn’t necess go through a machine so I
Think there’s it’s a very different product and they may not be adding things um like nitrates and if you’ve seen recently there’s some supermarkets where if you choosing a um something for shut or cold meat that they will actually be labeled nitrate free mhm and
And one of the reasons well of course my lens is mental health um the nitrates in those added processed meats can actually drive depression so I’m not sure that the food in is picked up on that but they I think they trying to tell you that it’s a healthier product but I
Think what we how we’re producing it here like a slice of baloney is very different from um a pah ham or something like that in in Italy yeah it’s uh I even saw one paper was like paraham actually has bioactive peptides in it that have actually a beneficial effect above and
Beyond even just say regular ham in that particular case and I think it kind of comes back to this whole thing of like okay are you looking at a Mediterranean diet as like what this ideal of a Mediterranean diet is or are you really looking at like what do the
Mediterranean regions because I know there’s studies that say uh Stronger adherence to Mediterranean principles leads to XYZ and that stuff’s fascinating don’t get me wrong like but I really like to look at the true like cultural Geographic data where you’re seeing like even you know U the socioeconomic piece the socio
Demographic piece of like okay well let’s look at what people have this as this ideal of the Mediterranean diet and let’s really look at the real Mediterranean diet CU I think what you and I are talking about is is the real Mediterranean diet right I I think so I feel that that’s
What we’re talking about and I also want to add in you know some some another context to this that for example the work of um the regions of the blue zones and what they eat you mentioned Sardinia it’s considered a blue zong Costa Rica predominantly one of the things they eat
A lot of is black beans um Japan one of the things they eat a lot of is seafood so these it’s not the Mediterranean diet it’s not they talk about those Mediterranean principles but all I’m pointing out is that they can be different foods but they still Whole
Foods and I think that when we talking about the Mediterranean diet what you and I are talking about is is how it’s described and not how it’s been interpreted um I think there’s a lot of interpretation of um the Mediterranean diet being entirely plant-based it’s not uh those regions are not plant-based
Regions and that doesn’t mean that they AR predom ly groups that eat a lot of vegetables cuz they are but I think we we the more we label and include and exclude the more confusing that information gets to everyone out there trying to eat healthy it it gets to be a
Puzzle that they can’t solve and then it’s just easier to pick up frozen food or fast foods you know such a solid point right it just like it’s too much for people to to figure out I’m really glad you mentioned the different regions of the blue zones too because it’s just
If you again you look at on the surface of it you think okay blue zones are pushing a plant-based angle they like well actually if you look at the different regions of the blue zones like they all are very very different and there might be some common denominators
But that that doesn’t mean that that is the case right I think the most important common denominator is not to go on a tangent but would probably is probably their lifestyle their activity and their relationship I was just going to say those you know having a tribe um
The power what’s it power N I think they talk about tribe context eating together they even throw in a glass of wine in some regions yet you know some regions like lomalinda entirely plant-based so it it does vary and I think I think in the United States we need to be able to
Embrace um and I’m not saying this with judgment I’m just saying I think we need to be more open-minded and inclusive around food because the more that we message around this is good this is bad don’t eat this only eat that the more confused people come become and then
It’s like hey I might as well just pick up fast food because I I’m not going to be able to figure out on my own anyway but I think if we messaging or talking about food then just offering some guidelines um and not guidelines without judgment yeah you know I mean speaking
Of guidelines what are some ways that people can add Mediterranean flare to their diets because I think there’s multiple elements we can talk about those different elements but like what what are some ways that people okay I don’t my family can’t go fullbore Mediterranean like maybe it’s just not
Practical what what are some ways that people can add some of the flare from a Mediterranean protocol into their life to get some of those benefits and those anti-inflammatory effects and the mental health benefits I think we can break it down into some simple principles think
About where you get your fats from think about olive oil avocado oil and actual avocados um think about nuts and seeds as a group rather than what type of nut or what type of seed and then think you know if you’re going to have um uh if
You if you happen to eat seafood and uh you meat eating you know think about the the quality of what you’re getting is it grass-fed beef if you if it’s within you know within um socio economically something you can you can afford to get cuz they tend to be more pricey can you
Get um you know pasturised uh chickens can you get pasturised lamp what whatever it is can you get a better version of it and if you can’t I would still you eat eat the actual food than a processed version of it right so we’re going to go on that principle and then I
Love to talk about the Kaleidoscope of colors because it’s much more than the colors of the rainbow um I designed a recipe called a kaleidoscope salad because honestly the multiple polyphenols and phytonutrients vitamins and everything that is found including fiber in these different color vegetables brings back biodiversity for
Your gut plus it’s nourishing your body and these are satiating foods that are not going to add on a ton add in a ton of calories um so think about the cauliflowers the broccoli of the world the cruciferous vegetables think about the leafy greens and lean into those
Rather than thinking oh well you know I don’t eat chickpeas um uh you know because they they sort of they made in a Mediterranean food called hammers maybe your version of that is black beans or a type of bean that’s an actual legume not some um processed version of it so maybe
That’s what you add into your diet I thought about this because I was called out by medical student Tom M was was a more Junior attending and and this very very smart medical student said to me well Dr N I don’t know why all you doctors talk about the Mediterranean
Diet and you know I’m I’m uh South Asian and this um uh student was I think East Asian she said you know in my culture we don’t know what chickpeas are my my culture we eat uh which was Chinese pity uh weat eat a lot of black beans and
That really taught me something you know because what she was saying is she went on to explain when I talk to patients I want to be able to provide a context for what they’re eating and her own lens gave her that sensitivity that she understands that so
If she’s talking about chickpeas what is that really now she’d eaten chickpeas and all of that but she was I it really gave me a context to develop these recipes called mediter meaning you know Mediterranean flavors and vegetables but maybe some spices or different uh components of an Asian diet so that it’s
More inclusive that more people like it more flavors same principles the best colors the best healthy fats um the clean proteins as we call them um and you know the nuts and seeds and Grains that that that a certain culture may eat and I feel like that makes it much more
Uh user friendly for people you know that yeah you’re you’re I mean it’s it’s it’s kind of close-minded to just say okay well Mediterranean is the best because now we have so much literature and we have the logistics to be able to say well oh what’s great about mediterranian well what’s great about
Indian well what’s great about okay well certainly in each in each region there’s going to be great food and there’s going to be awful food for you and it’s like you know Hong Kong for instance is that has the they have the longest life expectancy in the world they’re not a
Blue Zone but you know what they eat they eat a lot of stir frry with a lot of fiber and a lot of veggies lot ofies lot of meat and a lot of probably meats that we wouldn’t even touch in America right it’s they eat and yet they have
The longest life expectancy it’s so interesting and then you like okay you’ve got maybe some benefits that you would get from atic type of things that you wouldn’t have in the Mediterranean so it’s like why can’t we why can’t we cherry pick a little bit now that we
Have the ability to and make and make those choices and make it a little bit of all of the good stuff and put it in one place and I feel like the overarching description of the Mediterranean diet allows for that f flexibility I think we just need to be
More creative and more inclusive so a kaleidoscope of colors you know adding in um you know one of the the hums dishes I make I’ll add in Indian spices uh why not flavor it up in a way that you are more used to it’s just how you
Integrate the spice right so why why can’t you add Chic with a pinch of black pepper which is more from pulling from itic times you know um I think there’s a way or put it in roasted vegetables along with other spices you you can you
Can make mix it up and I feel like we need to be creative about helping ourselves move forward towards more Whole Foods um if we can because I think that that’s that’s providing a solution um that people can understand yeah do you know of it is there any literature
That takes a look at uh rates of say anxiety depression in other countries versus the US uh that you’ve seen that you know might kind of help us reflect on maybe maybe what diet is really good for mental health and obviously there’s so many other factors that come into
Play but not sure if there’s I haven’t seen any literature maybe you have um I don’t know that it’s as specific and I’ll tell you why I’ve always feel you know that even the nutritional science and even the nutrition epidemiological studies can can be can be challenging
Right because of the method that we collect data and you know relying on um small data sets because nutrition research is just not funded like pH pharmaceutical research search um anecdotally yes I I know that when I’ve you know at conferences or have conversations about certain dietary patterns overseas versus
What we eat in the United States is definitely a difference but I think that um some of the things that are common are that the Mediterranean diet actually can impact Improvement in uh mood and anxiety um not just physical health so not just cardiovascular health or or
Other things and I feel like um we know that certain foods display much bigger role in anxiety and a lot of them those um those plant rich foods um those healthy fats again coming back to the same principles but then what I do in calm your mind with food is give give
People the context and the Nuance to the different foods definitely definitely so if we Circle back kind of to the the inflammation piece yeah would you say that it’s the fiber the antioxidants the polyphenols the fats like if you had to pick one and I’m going to kind of put
You on the spot and make you pick one even though they probably is the entirety like which ones do you think have the biggest impact at least on the neuroinflammation side the side that you know inflammation that might impact our Network stability and our executive function and whatnot I’m going
To it was it for me it was a tossup between the fiber in these Foods versus the polyphenols I’m going to go with the polyphenols and the bioactives because they we know from the ongoing research that they actually break down and interact with the gut microbes and they are therefore
Helping with the formation of things like neurotransmitters fiber is extremely important it helps to nurture the gut it helps to fend off inflammation but I’m feeling through the research and what I’m learning and studying that the polyphenols are a little bit more active in a certain way in a more specific way
So they go beyond just having antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties they’re interacting in a way remember the 90 to 95% of the serotonin receptors are there serotonin production they doing a little bit more so I feel like as we go down that path and we understand more um that you know that
They I think are more important I mean so I learned recently I mean so polyphenols are almost a fiber in a way right they yes they are they are from Plants they are most specific and then they well tell me tell me what you uh
About to yeah no I mean that’s I kind of just learned that recently that like you know it’s polyphenols and fruit polyphenols and vegetables independent of the actual say fiber that you might see on a label the you know the insoluble or soluble fiber that’s like specifically put on a label like
Sometimes these I guess I could say undetectable amounts of fiber that in polyphenols are actually yeah interacting with our you know triggering feeding and crossfeeding of the gut and that’s like actually having possibly an even bigger impact than fiber itself which is kind of interesting I I agree
With you because I I feel like they probably shouldn’t be split up but it’s the way that we kind of learn about them um but the more that the the ongoing research on the gut microbiome is showing like when we looking now at the sort of exciting field of psychobiotics
Right which is can we use use food to actually um you know adequately treat mental health can we use how we put Foods together which I think is very exciting and I think that’s we’re going to learn more about um the impact of the bacteria the other thing so was reviewing some
Recent research on looking at the actual microbial strains and like lactoris um rosis impacts anxiety through Gaba you know and these it’s not that these are unknown facts I mean they’ve been in the research and some of the research is newer but it’s cool to know that we we
Now can identify those things or um lactobacillus rutai is involved in anxiety through some of the receptors you know just like these little things that it’s not just a penol it’s not just a microb there’s a there’s much more of an interaction and interplay between these things but yeah it’s it’s quite
Interesting when when you look at um you know just even the interaction of polyphenols and how that impacts short chain fatty acids and how that impacts even our fatty acid oxidation and it’s like this giant you know Loop that sometimes we we miss the entire point of
True by by either maybe touching only on the surface or labeling something that’s why I’m kind of a little bit over colors of the rainbow I’m not saying we shouldn’t use it but it’s it’s not adequate enough to describe the depth of the involvement of those polyphenols and
What they are actually doing um it’s a great way to describe to people eat a colorful meal but there’s much more going on with the the you know the short chain fatty acid loop with everything else and I think the more people understand like I’m a fundamental believer that people know what healthy
Eating is like they know the general principles but implementing it is hard but I do feel as well that when people know a reason to eat something that it it clicks a little bit better into place like this is the reason to eat this food and it’s beyond just the colors it’s
These huge the huge impact of these polyphenols what they do you may need to know the names you don’t need to know the names of the microbes involved but you can understand that it’s much more um it goes deeper than that yeah do you think that a lot of the nutrition
Research so even when we look at um sort of the foods that are going to impact our psychology and impact mental illness do you think that that literature is ever going to gain enough momentum or I can’t help but think and this isn’t even anything necessarily negative it’s just probably the way it
Is is once we start to understand the impact of a given food nutrient or given nutrient in the brain I would imagine that oh well that gets interesting let’s find a way to take this into the pharmaceutical setting and then the research goes further there CU a lot of
The pharmaceutical research even starts from well what we learn the impact of plant medicine and foods and this and that and then it kind of goes off from there right you know I I think that I’m sure that could happen but I feel like the more we can harness of
Food is medicine movement and say think about the direction of research for psychobiotic the microbiome research that’s going on mostly in the private sector on a much more deeper level than than say you know some of the other trials that are being done but not only I mean there’s some
Great centers that are doing great microbiome research I feel like that’s going to offer us more solutions through food um I I do feel like big farmers always going to be part of this world and this country and I think that there there’s always going to
Be the chase for the next drug for Alzheimer’s the next um or the next you know cure for something so I feel like that’s where that attention is um which allows us a great amount of uh leverage in in the food is medicine space to to influence things in a positive way by
How people eat yeah well I think that there’s a a positive spin on it too because I know there’s you know you’ve got the camps that are um like okay well well all the money’s going into Pharmaceutical research and not enough over here I do think that if even
Pharmaceutical research gets a chance to piggyback off of the nutrition research then there’s sort of this cross communication where maybe both do get elevated right if there’s a thoughtful acknowledgement of yeah okay we learn about this from this food we realize that food has this impact and if that
Serves as fodder for new pharmaceutical research then great more power to it but at least it continues to solidify the fact that well maybe this research on food is more than just how do I put this giving people a solution that’s going to keep them off of pharmaceuticals right
Right it doesn’t have to be this Great Divide and and I I think that you and I agree upon this it’s not it goes back to this um the mentality of what should you eat or what should you give up I think the more inclusive we can be even with
That overlap of really harnessing the science of both Industries right and making them work together would be a fantastic solution and I I really hope that um you know some of the solutions in the different spaces doing the research will come together in a certain way cuz I think that can offer people
More solutions that they need not just um not just a supplement like you can have a supplement no you know there’s a place for supplements because we don’t need a perfect diet but um maybe finding a way to to leverage both yeah absolutely and talking real quick on uh
You know on proteins for just a second with the Mediterranean diet um does or not even know a Mediteranean diet how does protein potentially impact the gut in the brain I it’s I think people seem to might have this thought process that protein’s bad for the gut but I mean
Protein has a positive impact as well right protein has a very very positive impact and it’s a very important part of what we eat irrespective of what your diet is what your dietary pattern is um it’s important for not just you know building muscle it’s it’s important for
Other reactions in the body and and the less that we start to divide up the different food groups right into whether they protein or the so or the let’s just say the macro the micronutrients the easier it becomes for us to design a nutritional psychiatric plate to design a healthy plate of food
Irrespective of what maybe you know just because you want to eat healthy I think that people get very caught up and they both sides to the research around um you know the plant-based Advocates will say you should never consume this type of meat because there breakdown products in
Your gut that will be damaging there’s an opposite camp that will say well you know there’s more research to show that these are not the most damaging um breakdown products and you actually can consume them so there’s a lot of divide about that and I feel for the everyday
Person um who is just trying to eat healthy um meaning you interested in the research you maybe you want to go down the rabbit hole of the research such but if you just try and eat why not choose the food that you want to eat in
Moderation um try to spend that money on a great sauce of that beef if you’re having a steak or tofu if that’s what you eat but to me that’s a better Direction but protein is extremely important and we should we tend to ignore fiber in American diets in fact
Researchers show we don’t eat enough fiber but I would say along with that we should be consuming enough protein um and you know some of the time I will actually have if I’m traveling I will actually make sure that I have a protein smoothie as part of what I’m doing
Because I’m running around and I’m not necessarily sitting down and able to eat a whole meal or am in an airport and it’s just harder to get a healthy meal in an airport um I can get food but may not be the the best meal I’m having that
Week so there are ways I think that we should we should be adaptable but pay attention to the protein definitely well Dr Naidu where can everyone find you and your your book and whatnot so you can find me at um Naidu md.com sign up for my newsletter where I talk about a
Different food each week and tell you how to prepare it but also the science behind it um you can also find me on social media at D Ru m a n a i d o o and my new book is called calm your mind with food releasing December 26th of
2023 and you can check out my other book this is your brainon food perfect well link out to all those below and thank you so much thanks so much

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Rule #1: don’t take food/health advise from fat people
The FOODS in America, kind of being ENGINEERED???…Our FOODS in the U.S. are being ENGINEERED!…To make us sick and murder us in the interim aka their Depopulation Agenda!!!
Such great info here. Each new day where American corporations ignore millennia of humans eating whole foods and easily 100g or more per day of fiber… I'm just at a loss for words.
Like… how can we continue to genetically alter foods, spray them with chemicals, remove micronutrients, process out all fiber, chemically strip all antioxidants… and then sit around wondering why "we become weak and ill as we age"???
OF COURSE WE DO… NOW! We've been poisoning ourselves for like 60 years now, even longer than that, to a lesser extent. And instead of addressing the root causes like videos such as these do, most corporations just "add vitamins and minerals" artificially while continuing to strip all the whole food properties from the processed garbage they sell… and then they sell $4.5 trillion per year in "medicine" and medical services to try and sweep the inevitably dismal results under the rug and hide the truth 😥
Thanks for putting this content out there where people can at least have a small chance of knowing more about the reality of nutrition and better outcomes! 💖
I've been vegetarian for 7 years now, had some blood tests done the other day, my doctor looked at the results puzzled, "I don't know what you give to your body but this is perfect" 😁
Naidoo needs to do a bit more walky-doo…
Come on …people who is talking about her looks and she doesn’t look healthy. She’s probably having a cold.
She looks like an ordinary physical state of having a cold that happens to everyone.
Doesn’t matter how healthy you eat or exercise we all get a cold once in a while and most of us, we look terrible when we have a cold
Most people struggle to make enough money to do things that make them happy that mental health takes a back seat, and with it, so does our health. If your are trying to lose weight to fill the void and be happy, do some introspective work first.
Am I the only one that automatically challenges the validity of anything said by a person that is visually not in optimal physical condition? Thomas exemplifies health visually which brings more merit to his words. This Dr, not so much.
She’s very nuts, grains and seeds oriented
She didn’t talk about animal protein at all, neither red meat or raw dairy, knowing these are the best sources of bioavailable protein for humans, and protein being the most important macronutrient for longevity
Interestingly she’s also fat, think about it 🧠
Since ground beef is the most nutritious food thats simotaniously the easiest to digest, of course its not veganism 🤦.
❤ this video Thomas, thank you. I returned back to Mediterranean diet. Best for me.
Thanks!
Am i the only one who gets tired of the lazy thumbnails dumping on vegans or vegan diets when 99% of the video doesnt even mention it? Just to draw an emotion
You don’t always have to look the part to verify it…
Look at me I’m jacked athletic handsome powerful I’m a apex predator but I’m also a complete genius so don’t judge a book by its cover
Unhealthy doc with metabolic dysfunction, inflammation and bloating is out here giving advice. 🤦♂️
LOVE this enlightening conversation; however, Dr. Naidoo made one small error. She claimed that the Seventh Day Adventists of Loma Linda, California are "entirely plant-based," but that is incorrect. According to the Adventist Health Study–2:
6% are semi-vegetarian (eat red meat, poultry and fish less than once per week).
8% are vegan (no red meat, fish, poultry, dairy or eggs).
10% are pesco-vegetarian (eat fish, milk and eggs but no red meat or poultry).
28% are lacto-ovo vegetarian (eat milk and/or eggs, but no meat, fish or poultry).
48% are omnivorous (eat meat, poultry, fish, milk and eggs more than once a week).
In other words, while most Seventh Day Adventists eat a plant-forward diet; only 8% of them are actually vegan (my definition of "entirely plant-based"). I don't think that the vegans in the group account for their overall longevity. I think that their universal injunction to eat “plain food” (i.e., no manufactured packaged foods) and exercise via “walking prayer” in the Loma Linda hills has a much bigger impact than the tiny vegan minority.
Hope this helps!
Lion Diet. Period.
She’s full of bullshit and inflammation
Well she knows all about losing weight 😮
Thomas commented on the long life of Hong Kong residents and attributing that to diet.
I just arrived back to Canada from Hong Kong. Their diet does include a lot of meat. However, the meat is often covered with starchy products, sugary sauces, or even a fried starch (seed oils). Sugary, starchy, seed oil containing processed snacks are sold everywhere too. So it is not always that healthy.
I also observed that Hong Kong residents do a lot more walking than people in any other country that I visited. I think their longevity is attributed to this more than diet.
Such a epic and educational conversation Thomas! Thank you once again for having Dr. Naidoo on your channel!!
Ok… I want to see some verifiable birth certificates on the "blue zones" before I become a believer…
Hey TomFam,
Years ago I remember reading about how Candida, and intrinsic symbiotic fungus and some other organisms, are nature's recyclers for our bodies. That once we die it metabolizes the organic matter of our bodies and turns it back into base chemistry to be reutilized by nature. That, the immune system is really a balance of rebuilding cells that are metabolized by these organisms when we are 'healthy'.
As well that many of the terpinoids and other compounds in organic matter such as fruits and vegetables are fungicides, pesticides antibacterials and antiparasitics. For example, garlic, onions eucalyptus, or the nicotinoids in tomatoes or eggplant or the even say essential oils in orange peels which keep these otherwise destructive organisms in check, which is why you don't see fruit begin to rot until it begins to dry out of these compounds.
Could eating certain vegetables, compounds, be able to help keep those same organisms in our bodies in check. A form of organic chemotherapy if you will, also acknowledging that too much of them could be toxic.
Do you know of any research you can recommend in that regard?
Thank you, always appreciate your channel very much.
The term "The Mediterranean Diet" is absurd.
The Mediterranean Sea borders many countries with wildly different diets, from Spain to France to Italy & Greece they eat very diffident from one another.
Basically "the Mediterranean diet" is a made up term.
one of the reason pastas in Italy are not as starchy as in the states because Italians eat al dente pasta and in America only recently we were introduced to al dente cooking option.
Interesting conversation. Thankful.
She looks very inflamed
Be a sponge. Great conversation! Thomas, you have come a long way as an interviewer and facilitator of interesting conversations.
The most unhelpful term in nutrition science “a balanced diet”. I don’t care how many degrees u have. If u don’t look like I follow ur own advice with nutrition you’ve tanked ur credibility.
"If you happen to eat seafood and are meat eating". Excuse me? Then, eat a low calorie rainbow for 'phytonutrients'. What? Perhaps, eat for your endogenous antioxidant system first. I have no idea what to take away here or what "more" polyphenols are supposed to be doing. With all this faith in my limited fermentation capacity, will my microbiome save me?
The reason why I disagree with having anything that's been grown in the soil is because we all know what's been put on the soil and the things that we don't know. We probably don't really want to know so I don't want to eat the things that have been in the soil. So how can you tell me that? We should be eating the grains that are so healthy for us. They're not healthy for us if they are poisoned
My psychiatrist is in love with this woman. And he will not stop talking to me about the stupid blue zones. I don't care about the blue zones. I want to talk about why I can't leave my house
A Vegan world is the only perfect world.