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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
6:05 Italians and lentils on new years
8:40 Fake Italians
17:20 The 7 fishes
20:14 Difference between Northern & Southern Italians
31:27 Jersey Pizza Sucks
52:45 Favorite Italian Actors
55:14 Sylvester Stallone is not a good actor?
58:43 Best Italian American Singers
1:09:06 Favorite Italian Influencers
1:18:24 Favorite Italian Pasta
1:24:44 Favorite Italian dessert
1:28:17 Espresso Martini Trend
1:28:17 Best Cannoli in NY
Welcome back to the Johnny drinks podcast I’m your co-host Johnny here with my father this is John and if you are Italian or you appreciate the Italian culture probably know these guys Sabino Rocco from Italian the way we’re drinking it’s like 12 on the Johnny drinks
Pocket the people that know me know I’m not a big drinker for us got do the right this for you guys this is it’s easy it’s 12:00 1230 it’s 5:00 somewhere in England it’s 5:00 we we’re good we’re just sipping and and he’s dry January unfortunately I am going to hold
Where has dry January came from because I’ve heard it a zillion time so this year we were uh a New Year’s day yesterday and I said to him the two viral things I saw this year were people eating grapes under the table what is that why are they doing that it’s a
Spanish thing but but why why are why is everything grapes under the table I heard that ever grapes under the table what does it do it’s supposed to like make you find a partner this year like those who are single you want to find love yeah so all the
Girls are eating grapes where my grapes and and I see dry January I’m like I’ve never seen any of these things till this year and then this year that’s all I saw well how about lentils that’s a that’s a big no we had lentils on New Year’s Day
We had New Year’s Eve we had him New Year’s Eve we had them on New Year’s Day Mom made him but did you guys of course you have to you have to we talking about budget we need L explain that to to the audience that is so uh traditionally like New Year’s
Eve mhm when the ball drops right after you wish everyone a Happy New Year and then you eat lentils it’s supposed to bring wealth Health Prosperity all that good stuff so lentils represent like a coin so they say you’re going to bring in a prosperous New Year by eating
Something that resembles a coin but that’s why I don’t get the grapes like what does a grape represent and I think you’re supposed to symbolize yeah 12 graes 12 grapes right maybe one for each month but you also have to real quick you also keep them in your pocket right
So you’re never without any money that’s the other thing about dry in your pocket yeah you got one no would you make like a len Martini or something a lentil Martini I feel like should be new diarrhea Martini well how about the um if anybody can make it good it’s him we
Have yeah we have to put a little cream texture to it or something how about the mozzarel martinis are big where was that place oh that’s gross it’s in Jersey that’s disgusting it’s not though think about think about dirty martini John come on it’s salt water and what’s a
Dirty martini uh a dirty martini is olive juice it’s pretty much salty water we’re going to try pick pickle juice too dis I’ll tell you rather mozzarella water pickle juice we done pick they suck those drinks suck there’s nothing there’s no chance we do that with him
Hell no I hate we do like a no mozzarella water like you can you can give me anything and I’ll try to come up with something I’m not I guarantee you it has a chance of being good but there’s also probably we’ve done it where we’ve thrown stuff together it’s
Like oh this is terrible the guy was like this is the best Martin and he’s like put put a bowl of fresh mozzarella in there on top a garnish I saw the hell but they liked it they said it was the milk from the mozzarella can you imagine drinking
That let’s be really clear it’s pretty [ __ ] good when you have so many other options that’s not one you go to that’s not on the top of any half something well it’s funny because I think the way we met was we made he made fresh matzel
And you saw the video and you’re like hey you mind if we post I was like yes account is huge that was like 2 years ago and then you also knew somebody that we knew and we got connected cuz yeah yeah forget forget what it was forget
Who that’s always how it works yeah it’s a small world it is and and that’s when I started to appreciate and I liked your page because obviously we’re Italian and I didn’t know much about you guys and that’s why I want to ask because there’s a lot of fake Italians especially in
This area but you guys are are born here but your family’s from there yeah our our parents were born now wait hold on you said fake Italian what do you consider like a fake Italian I’m curious before we go into it I’m it’s funny cuz you say that uh I think listen I’m
American we’re American my dad’s from here his dad’s from here we appreciate Italian culture and we have it in our family I’m not going around acting more of anything that I am I am who I am I’m from New Jersey I have New Jersey culture I don’t speak Italian I’m not
Going to put on an accent for other people so I think the people that do that they kind of wear it as like that’s their personality that they’re Italian but then they go to speak the language and they can’t you’re a fraud you know what I mean so it’s I think it’s a
Little bit weird fair enough fair enough about good Nar I mean I way we look at now is like you know back in the day Michael Jordan he was like playing in sneakers and he’s like you know even Republicans money’s green yeah so even if you’re not full Italian like yeah you
Appreciate I mean but the if you watch like our first episode we probably scrubbed it off the internet we had that kind of mindset like if you don’t go there if you don’t this like we had like rules but um you know I think from running this page and uh our whole
Journey you see there’s so many people that really love that background so why would I take that away from them because at the end of the day that’s what they grew up with like if they call their non Nana or whatever like that’s what they
Grew up with so that’s what you know yep who am I to tell you you’re not Italian like right right right I guess that’s it comes from a place of if you are Italian and then you got this fake Italian running around saying he is and you kind
Of get almost offended like I know my my sister’s boyfriend Dario his family is from Italy from sic he sounds super speak is like a strong Italian I wanted Dar to come here but he’s at work right now he would have loved to talk to you
Guys so I remember like he’ll send me some like again creators that put on the act a little bit and he’s like who’s this guy think he is this and that he mind yeah I’m sure you do exactly so as long as not I think the issue is as long
As they don’t give us a bad name M you know going around thinking they’re Mafia bosses or like whoes let’s be real here the things that sell especially in America are that kind say that’s the media they they portray that that’s what people are drawn to so as much as we
Hate it like it is what it is at a certain point that’s why we’re trying to give it a good name but at the same time we have fun with it like we’ll have people that like Big Joe Gambino what a character that guy is he looks like a
Guy who knows a guy you know what does he do but then he speaks he speaks real napoi Don too though oh he’s he’s from there though yeah he like he speaks perfect does I don’t what does he do he he uh I think he’s starting to go
Fulltime with this but uh awesome you know he he knows a guy or two he’ll get something moved around for you but um I was going to say something uh like the big thing for us I would want to say is because we went there every summer
Growing up his family is like his Nana was there my Nana was there and then we had a here to like from my dad’s side and his mom’s side can you explain that my mom and his dad are brother and sister so uh they our n lives here but
Then our other n on other side lived in Italy okay so every summer we all went there but um what I want to say is I think especially for me and him and what we do we’re I want to say confidently the only Bridge from Italy to the
Atalian Americans here so like I’m friends with some of the biggest artists in Italy but then I’m friends with some of the biggest Italian American creators here so I actually take the pride in being that bridge and trying to see more things happen with both because even
Italians on that side not all of them but some of them look at us like like us that we’re not real Italians right so that’s why like I think from our journey we learn not to like look at people like that because how you going to say I’m
Not Italian like you know what I mean you know so no matter what there’s always some level looking down on the other so naturally we try to break that that well there’s those like so John opened this up with saying you know we’re American yeah we’re all American
And there are people who live in America that don’t bring the best version of being an American to all of us so it is definitely an individual thing and there’s something there’s a lot of Pride that goes around and we in the community of being the Italian Heritage you know
Um and the things that we do by way of our culture and the foods that we eat and things that we celebrate and that the luck that we give to a lentil right as an example those are things special like every other Heritage does have them so there’s nothing wrong with
Celebrating all that it’s it’s all good it brings family together um and it gives meaning to a lot of things what I find the most disappointing are the guys and girls that go over that edge whether it’s Italian Irish Jewish American it doesn’t matter just kind of stay in a
Respectful lane somewhere and celebrate it all and co-mingle and exist with each other don’t hate on anybody right oh you get mad at the cultures that get mad on I get I don’t I don’t understand it you know I guess when I was younger it was
Kind of like you were just maybe angry at a lot of things because you were young and you didn’t know any better and that kind of brought fire towards other groups and then as you get older and you have family you you realize all right
Hold on let’s just all learn to live and celebrate the good things about each other’s cultures right that’s that’s what we not to cut you off but that’s what I think is uh kind of shaped us the way we were because in the beginning I mean we’ve been having this page for
Like seven years now in the beginning sometimes we would post content to kind of make people argue and now more than ever I will say the last two three years especially we don’t really like try to make people argue like if they do it’s going to happen but like I don’t we
Don’t post like the stuff is like is it this or that is it SAU or gravy is like you know like we TR in that sense not political sense that’s easy that’s that you know I like that segment of what you guys do because it does it’s opinion and there
Is no real right or wrong you guys got passion depends on the delivery and who’s answering it which makes you kind of go one side or the other you know I think the goal for me is like your third generation fourth generation what am I four Grandpa was from Grandpa uh my
Grandpa’s sisters were from there but then he was born like two years two years old here oh he was the first one exactly yeah third SL fourth goal is like my grandkids my great grandkids one day like I still want them to carry our Traditions I still want them to be proud
That they do have Italian roots not necessarily Italian first whether it be Italian American or they consider themselves American just you know follow the Traditions that we brought on and this way the Legacy lives on forever you know there’s nothing we should all know where our Roots come from and be proud
Of that you should if you if you okay cuz you’re bringing meaning to life yeah and if you don’t have this in your life like as we’re talking about the Italian heritage Traditions if you don’t have that well then what is it so you guys
Are you married you guys married no I am okay so is your wife from an Italian background she’s Italian American okay so you know meaning like there’s a chance that one or two of you guys might marry somebody has zero connection to Heritage but then they become a Time by injection I
Think would you would you marry somebody that’s not Italian yeah if it’s the right situation but if but so if you marry somebody that’s not Italian and they have a different culture you’re gonna find yourself listen it’s your partner no not not that you would give
Up what you have but you’re going to find yourself open to other things other traditions and the holidays then begin to get sliced and diced I’ll go here for this I’ll go there for that and so there’s another chapter of this as again you you age and you grow and you build
Your own families uh that’s going to infiltrate its way into what your Traditions become the things that we used to do when my children were younger we don’t do today like New Year’s right New Year’s has changed because everybody wants to go out well they’re not staying with us
Anymore and you know what I mean it it they used to be in that situation though where if you’re dating someone that’s not Italian I would say the safe way to do it is do the eve by the Italians of course so that way you still get the Seven Fishes the lentils
Greek dating a Greek must be hard when you’re that’s seven fishes John one of John’s things is that we we don’t do The Seven Fishes anymore I was going to say so again third fourth generation we don’t do The Seven Fishes either by the way but it’s changed it was
Seven seven we had chicken cols when when we were growing up it was like because a lot of our cousins and especially me too like we’re not Big Fish Eaters so uh you know Growing Up Christmas Eve it’s like we had pasta with butter or like a pasta with with a
Regular red sauce and now they made chicken cullets pruto like we didn’t have this going but yeah not everybody eats fish but you didn’t like smelts you don’t like those little fish you know sardines Jesus I know you you’ve never had those they almost both just thre up
You talking about no the little sardines honest I love anov oil cold and that’s that’s a again when you talk about The Seven Fishes you’re run out of fishes pretty quick after like three or four you could get a couple in the seafood salads that cover
Cover you up yeah you could that’s a trick right there here’s super you got four in there yeah you got four you know the reason for that The Seven Fishes I think it’s more of a southern Italy SL Italian americ if you want to know my
Real honest opinion I feel back in the day in Jesus’s time that the fisherman had to like pay Jesus to like listen the fish AR moving how we going to do this like all right we’re going to give them seven because I always say that like for
Fridays like the fish on Fridays why isn’t fish considered a meat right well iters you’re right the Fishers right right yeah why yeah why is that one okay I always wonder why wasn’t it the chicken you know why wasn’t it you know Jesus they picked fish they got to move
And and modern day is what Hallmark does Hallmark gives everything a reason to have a card everything so true Secretary’s Day oh okay sure you can’t even use the word secretary anymore but you’re going to give them a day so let’s get a car why can’t you use because some
People feels it’s administrative assistance why called that yeah you that’s a demeaning really yeah to call somebody a secretary I never do that in the 60s in the 60s you would have secretaries you would have women that only knew how to take shorthand and type and and do
Everything that you wanted as a leader or boss in your business that’s evolved and changed and you don’t call someone who is your associate assistant a secretary admin assistant it’s a it’s it’s demeaning it’s not looked upon favorably when you’re in that role Le we’re learning well you so seven fish is
Is from Southern Italian culture you guys are from northern no We’re from south oh you are c c right below Naples okay and no Sicilian in you nope you Sicilian that’s where my my mom’s side is from yeah and then they’re from an island my grand from an island um pro
Pro there you go so what do you what is the biggest difference between Southern Italian and Northern Italian culture oh my gosh open up we eat we eat better than for sure yeah yeah how so I mean our dishes are more uh tomatoes and like light yeah light their their dishes are
More butter based you know like we’re more olive oil based that’s the easiest way to explain it huh well that’s how you differentiate the culture like listen they we you know that’s the way I look the food’s very different but and the influences are different from the
Regions of Italy as well because as you go further north what do you run into you run into France Switzerland some of the other cultures that lead over exact you go south you’re South and you’re not going to have a you don’t have a real border there but you also find that the
Contrasting differences between the food Styles you know you have the water right you have the fish you have the the coastline right you have the adrionic sea and up north you have Tuscany of Olives you have the the harvest that’s just very different so depending on the
Region you come from um will be indicative of the food you eat so my family was from um northern part it’s called the town Borgo dataro and it was a town that was in the region of Tuscany and it was Farmland right so everything that I grew up eating from my nony was
My grandmother my nony I grew up with was peasant food it was potatoes it was breads it was the stew Meats it was very low nothing highend about the food that we ate they’ll charge that for $40 now yeah but everything was like onions and vegetables right right just to make it
Sou Southern Italian food is the best though because buffalo buffalo mozzarella like stuff like that when you cut up Buffalo mozzarella in southern Italy and it’s fresh with olive oil and tomatoes the best tasting thing in the world do you guys know how to make any
Of that do you cook at all our our family like yeah we have a we make first but not like that no you personally do you personally either one of you guys I’m a short order cook like I’ll grill a burger you know I know how to put stuff
Together but because I’m in the food business it’s like when I’m home I’m not trying to oh okay dirty six seven pots you know right right I I should learn how to do that honestly I got to tell your dad to teach me do you know how to make
Easy that’s easy you know to do cuz we just do it with kurd yeah so it’s not like we’re doing it the real way from SC Mak putting like boiling hot water his dad’s going in there with his hands like once you like could deal with the
Hotness of the water it’s pretty easy like it’s like a technique of like doing that you know no it is it’s relatively simple it’s not Eddie my my nephew know I I learned it from a friend of mine and once you learn it to your point and you
Get your hands right and you understand to move the curd it’s not hard it just then becomes you can’t move it too much cuz then it’ll get you got to let it cook right to learn that the hard way too yeah you learn that the hard way that’s the part of learning like
Actually doing it it’s a total feel play you guys heard of a casadel Mel yeah of course so that’s Dario I mentioned that’s Dario’s cousin and amazing we got to find a spot cuz we haven’t been yet and I want to go so bad yeah go he’s he’s awesome the kid
Too you got to go to OCT Avenue bro we I’ve never like we’ve never done it you never been there we been there but we’ve never done it as like a video or like yeah I want I want what’s a good like Italian spot here I’m going to show you
Cuz I got sandwiches from don’t wor this guy came ready I got I got two different sandwiches I want yeah I want to cuz I want you guys to tell me how you feel unas overrated underrated or perfectly War can’t wait for that let’s take you know why don’t we take one
Quick commercial break and we’ll come right back and uh eat these sandwiches all right we’re back we are back we have it looks good from the distance so I I wanted I wanted the to to rate what I would consider the best deli in Jersey city/ Hoboken and it’s
Not fiori cuz I know that has a really good rep this is kios two Ty so this is naturally known as a really good Deli yes and then I personally think it’s it’s my favorite that’s just top spot so I’m praying bread looks good the bread is good I I think everything’s very
Fresh over there and I’m not going to talk to you about anybody else but sometimes I’ll get a sandwich from a very well-known spot Jersey Mike you’re talking about yeah Jersey Mike I’m like this is so we have an Italian one first or we have this one’s grilled chicken
Woods what’s the right one to have here to pop somebody want to eat the chicken we both I’m CU to what the Italian one is cuz I feel like so go with the use ham Cappy okay yeah they do yeah see that that’s crazy that’s crazy if you’re
Going to call it it give the Italian first and then uh I’ll take this one so we’ll go Italian first and then the other one is just the number 14 I don’t know what you want to call by the way this one oh no which one you I
Went the Italian first well just take one of each just to have I’ll take the ends like the poor man here take best the best one you like end yeah throw it over there you really don’t like the end you don’t eat butt cuss yeah no mean
Yeah all right see now look what do you want first I deconstructed this goe this is the Italian you said bro what are you doing tell me what kind of meat is that that’s ham that’s a peppercorn peppercorn ham yeah it’s ham Cappy yeah you think H Cappy exists in Italy listen
Are you crazy I want your honest opinion all right here we go baby we paid for these so they didn’t give us I I had to eat um the the cold cut first you know mhm to know I was getting into yeah and be honest there’s no reason why yeah but
This sandwich is called the Italian it’s a number it’s not called like the Frank Sinatra so that’s the thing they don’t name them they just have numbers okay yeah it’s number six don’t quote me on that yeah I think that’s the one the the
10 the other one’s a 30 okay I just did one bite I’ll give a fair assessment off one bite um I’m going to say perfectly rated all right I think I think this is a good spot you know this is a classic Italian sub here yeah nothing like blows
Me out the water but it does it hits every spot that you need yeah now let me before you go cuz I know you got an opinion before you go what would knock your socks off like what are you looking for uh that’s a good question is there pruto
In here I didn’t taste p that’s a but it has BR on it I think no maybe it doesn’t I know just ham I think instead of the cooked hamut it should be likeo instead of the cooked ham I know there’s no B on cuz I
Know there’s B on this one so I want it too this is really sweet this is a sweet version of the sub that’s how I feel first no it’s actually really good the bread’s amazing um the only thing that’s bugging me out is a ham Cappy but um
It’s good I’m not going to say it’s not good but if it was called in it would have been overrated but if it’s not cold in the it’s perfectly rated right I want to take a bite of chicken Cola one oh okay hold on so now this one for the for
The audio listeners which I’m sorry you have to hear us chew we have grilled chicken balsamic roasted red peppers fresh mozzarel and 24mon age B this is the this is this is your favorite this is the one yeah this is the sandwich there’s BJ on this where’s the
B on this oh I see it it’s buried in like balsamic this one’s good this one’s better yeah this is better this is better yeah this is the one I would say a fried chicken color over grilled chicken would have made it better wait wait wait wait wait
Wait wait that’s what they they asked me fried or grilled you said go grilled you trying to eat healthy yeah yeah but that’s so funny I knew you were going to say that too I should have got the fried fried would have been over the top bro
This is banging this is a good one this I this is Eddie my my cousin who may be coming in soon this is his go-to every time yeah perfectly rated spot I like it listen shout out to kios I’m one of those guys that I chew and eat so loud
But I hate when other people chewing eat so I know the people are going to be going crazy just listen there’s something there’s a phobia for that yeah forgot what it’s called what is it called I probably have it there’s the opposite too ASMR mukbang [ __ ] people
Just we’re going to eat the whole way yeah well you want it yeah I mean I’ll save it for later no do you want to eat it cuz we can take a break n I we already took a break well no no we’re good we’re good we’re good we’ll just
Like cut this little part out there definitely having the rest of that later though you could put your sandwich down oh yeah we could we could eat it real quick true we should put them in hand special yeah the guys that own the company still deliver it it’s two
Brothers well talk to us about this so I bought because I like them we bought the Manhattan Special um espresso soda pretty much just what carbon it’s just like Cocola careful that was explode going to blow up pretty much just Coca-Cola and and espresso mix it’s not Coca-Cola it’s not Coca-Cola I said
Pretty much just you said Coca-Cola I said pretty much justo soda there’s no Cola Coca-Cola in there if you were to put carbonation I all I’m saying to the audience doesn’t know what it is if you put an espresso in a Coca-Cola this is what you got all right give them an idea
You guys think so just to give them an idea what it is yeah it’s a coffee soda so it’s a coffee soda that’s what it is maybe not Coke but you know listen tomato Tom very particular J let’s be specific we have an obligation this what a sandwich is the best combination the
Best’s nothing like there you go clean clean clean opening I do want to say it should be called Manhattan Avenue special talk to us about it why because it’s from it’s from Brooklyn where we’re from the factory is literally like three blocks from where we live yeah where we
Grew up you know the guy yeah we know the the brothers they still deliver the espresso yeah the the premium coffee soda um um this company’s a gem like it’s been around you’re in the tri state area you know manhatt special yeah yeah since 1895 so they’re dads I’m assuming grandfathers grandfathers
That’s crazy delicious and you know these guys yeah what are the odds that I it’s two brothers and a sister tell them the call see if they want us to sponsor it’s not happening we’ve been trying ourselves the call I actually want to do a tour of
Their Factory and I spoke to them about it and they’re like ah we’ll see we don’t like social media you know dude so so I was at my favorite my favorite pizza spot in Hoboken and I shot him out all day apulia that gave me the picture
Said the same thing I I was like I want to come in whatever he’s like yeah you know we’re not too big on the if you I was like if you were you’d have this place sold out with a line W they probably still doing well he his thing
Was he’s authentic pizza he’s not going to sacrifice that for the audience and what happens when you are so public you get people that really don’t know what they’re talking about now comparing you to the Domino’s next door disrespect so they’re genuine they’re some of the best
People that I’ve met great dudes and personally my favorite pizza around here is a Pula well can we talk about the Hoboken pizza real quick or Jersey pizza in general I’ve had it four times bro every time I’m done eating pizza from Jersey my jaw is killing me like do you
Guys not let the dough ferment at all like what’s the deal here I’m like chewing for days I actually I appreciate you say that cuz I don’t love there’s some really good Hoboken Pizza spots that everybody like Rants and Raves about was like it was like $45 for a pie
It’s expensive mean it’s like what the hell I like the neopolitan style pizza and that’s what a pulie is and uh razza is the other one in Jersey City so I don’t like the pizza you’re talking about either cuz same thing I’ll have two slices and my mouth is hurting yeah
But why is that though is it the fermentation of the dough I would assume and then I think people like a greaser thicker slice around here yeah no no it’s a workout just to eat yeah I thought it was the only one cuz I was tell my friends like yo you’re
Being dramatic I’m like bro where did do you do you remember I don’t remember the name it was a square pie though they’re famous for their Square pies okay well maybe that’s it too like a cilian pie no but it wasn’t a thick bro it was like
The crust was like this so really I just like this is either terrible D or even if I didn’t know the name though I would feel bad saying it I don’t like to give bad no no well let’s let’s hop right into because I have a ton of
Questions about I actually do have one more question Jersey New York do you guys think you have better Bagels than us cuz I see a lot of people on Tik Tok saying that I here listen I think again it’s subjective I like a real nice hard
Crust and then a and then a nice soft inside where some people like it soft throughout so I know some spots around here that I’ll compare it to some of the best spots I don’t know enough about New York bagos I’ve only been to a couple spots yeah I feel like Brooklyn Brooklyn
Brad and Brooklyn has that the water component that everyone feels is gamechanging so is that a real thing no I think I think there’s something to be said about it I don’t know that it’s truly if you put Brooklyn Water against nework New Jersey water don’t we have
The same water yeah same pipeline same river where we well that’s the water with where the water comes from and supplies is not necessarily the same Reservoir Joe Knows go Joe oh it’s notg to speak over I’m not begging to speak I just know it’s different water
It is I think New York comes from uh Upstate upstate new it is Upstate New York and jerse you guys get from the Jersey showers we get a lot of from Seaside we get it from nework no believe it or not we do so if you drink
Jersey Warriors fist P yeah exactly you know Karma we talked about that the the two most notorious things were were known for is the Jersey Shore and the ma yeah and sanos exactly and so that’s what every about like the tayloran POR pork roll cuz I don’t think I’ve ever try
Yeah that’s got to stop though why is it not just him why are we saying Taylor in front of the him and then tayor pork roll even but pork roll is even crazier that’s like it’s a pork roll but the company tailor which one do you guys say
I mean I don’t friends yeah but you don’t say craft American cheese you just say well you don’t say cotton swab either say Q-tip you don’t say you don’t say lip chapstick andam had different true you don’t say you don’t say petroleum jelly you say Vaseline like
That’s the that’s the end of the argument right there I don’t know why they’re having a conversation about this but so I would lean Taylor Ham though just everybody know it sounds better but it’s not H it’s actually more like a spam you know what spam is just it’s
Like the [ __ ] it tastes delicious slimy ham no it’s not it’s not slimy it’s ham in a can no pretty much no spam is ham out a can spam is a blend of meats in a cam can spam can’t ham tailored ham pork roll is different I can’t it’s combination
That’s cured and seasoned somehow differently this is why it’s always good to have one educational one on a podcast yeah right cuz we’re allps Keeps Us in check you know he’s just fact checked well actually that’s his role well let’s just let’s just don’t don’t Google me but I’m
People screaming more is there a difference of people from Jersey that say one or the other though is it like a South Jersey thing it’s a North North Jersey South Jersey thing North Jersey says Taylor ham yeah South Jersey says pork roll the people that are wrong say
What about Central Jersey what do they say they just try to they just go over the the bridge and they think they’re part of one or the other they don’t they don’t know where they want there Central J Central Jersey doesn’t know where they want to be they really don’t they use
The bridge as a a means of Separation they nice what brid what bridge is that uh what call um George Washington definitely not like once you get there go right the Amboy Bridge yeah exit 129 by St Allen yep route n and Parkway and Stanten Island 287 70 all that stuff
Intertwines MH that’s that’s the bridge that separates North and South and then those people who were Central like to play in that that space and say they’re from one to the other side of the bridge and you know so funny you know I don’t really know much about Jersey I just
Really yeah you don’t come here often not much like I drive through it once in a while you guys all talk like this no no you know so that accent you’re getting from essy that’s where you’re getting Hudson County and Essex County you’re getting the is everybody like that though like
They’re actually like that so Essex County Country Club a lot of the guys like that all so this is this is how I grew up this is how I grew up Italian in ESS County Essence County Hudson County Bergen County right those Three Counties led the narrative on how you believed
You were Italian how you talked so how your accent got heavier and thicker depending on what county you were from Essex County was a very consistent hey yo what’s up hey bro what’s up okay that was us Italian growing up then you went into like Bergen County and it got a
Little heavier a little bit more kind of towards the city that they felt that they were more of the the original G crew okay and Hudson Bergen Hudson County and then you had the cities of let’s say norc and Belleville and Nutley which are also essis County that they really they
Transcended transcended how we used to call guys Nicki ners Nicki nkers were the guys or like they were like the heavy Corvettes Guinea tees buong Gaba gouls they they had they had and when I grew up you know when we grew up the same way the John Rambo hair okay so I
Grew up with the John Rambo hair we all have an uncle like this by the way well that that was if you look at me in my 18-year-old time hair like that Sho string around my head which was the bottom of the T-shirt ripped vies not disco fever freyle just like you were
Trying to yeah not no no because that was another group the guys that we were with the Nicki nkers the Bel was more into like the cars and the girls and the food and all the other things and so they’re from Brooklyn basically you see this there’s a lot of parallels yeah
There’s a lot of parallels my friend from Brooklyn grew up the same way and we talk about time this this is what I was going to ask you because like I said I’m not too familiar with Jersey would you say that how many counties are in Jersey do you know like
An exact I think there’s like 22 or 23 count you know well I was trying to compare it to as New York we got the five burrows what’s that version of Jersey the are very different like it it really does like it changes pretty we only know North Jersey really so if you
Took Pake Bergen um Hudson Essex that would be kind of like the Burrows of Jersey because they all are very different but they all the north but we do know we know South Jersey John we know we went to school in South Jersey those Town completely different is what I’m saying
They’re completely different they’re like they’re like Farm boys over there yeah they’re country country farm boys you go like they got those Philly accents no no but that’s that’s the influence that’s the other influence Philadelphia influences South Jersey and so you don’t get quite the trickle over that we get
From like New York and the inner cities of nework and Patterson um and like anything else where there’s a city and there’s a lot of density of people those people tend to influence the towns in and around them right sense and so yeah and so and so that’s that the major pull
For us is you know a lot of my my father’s friends and my father that came from New York my my dad grew up in Manhattan 56 Street okay so he was in the city and when he came over to New Jersey it was to get out of the city and
That’s what a lot that’s what a lot of people did this when we’re done so that infiltrated into some of those habits and some of those things um and then you start working and living in New Jersey and you know your your habits are your habits and the people you’re hang around
With started to migrate with them right um but the counties down South Jersey aren’t even I don’t even know they’re just how many counties are there Joe did you look that up 22 or 23 I I I know it’s in I believe it’s in like the 20s
Would you say a county is consed a neighborhood so NE there’s a bunch of neighborhoods in County County yeah yeah you guys don’t know what counties are we don’t have count I mean technically queens and kings County but that’s Brooklyn and Queens then we have suffk Nassau Island it’s just a cluster of
Towns pretty much but again you would meet a guy from South Jersey and you wouldn’t even think he’s from Jersey like like the epitome of New Jersey again like the stereotypical stuff it’s all northern Jersey the northern Jersey culture is way more about that and they
Hate it down there which I get it you know like so you okay I’m just resting so I don’t drop the bottle it’s okay um I went to Rome down in South Jersey yeah and it was like a migration of North Jersey people down there but if you the South
Jersey guys would be like these guys suck you know what I mean and you get it cuzz it’s cultures and they’re not used to the way we spoke or how we sound and stuff like that so it’s like Philly Eagle fans and giant fans you can see it
A mile away yeah the contrast some of them some of them boo Santa Claus and some of them don’t some throw snowballs at Santa Claus yeah they have two-year-olds flipping uh flipping off Vikings fans I saw that video I hope the Eagles don’t win this year man I don’t think the
World could handle another the Eagles Super Bowl no there’s no way it’ll set us back I don’t think so they don’t have it this year I don’t think so yeah I don’t think they I don’t think they have it this year I don’t think so either well after losing to the Cardinals bro
That’s disgusting yeah and and think of all their wins I mean I don’t know what their their point uh differences but it’s not high at all they’ve won their games by marginal yeah definitely marginal are you guys giant fans or mhm Tommy dito fans yeah yeah us too I’m a
Jet fan but I’m a Tommy Deo fan got I mean I’m sure so I’m sure you guys have appreciated that have you had him on or no no we’re supposed to we’ll see he’s a good dude we actually just saw him uh the other day you saw him yeah we have
The same account oh nice oh that’s funny hey what’s up buddy is your accountant Italian or no no no you don’t want an Italian accountant you want a Jewish accountant very smart Syrian what are they uh yeah I think so right M and Co yeah I don’t know but um my brother my
My brother played Syracuse and so did Tommy yeah Tommy played it for a year I think right he was there he was there three years three seasons so you know him that like from then they did I never met him when you yeah I knew him I knew
Him there when my son was there and and his par I mean his father mother twice um but yeah that’s how we it look like they’re fun to hang out what position did your son play he was Defensive uh lineman okay yeah and then he went to offense to help out and unfortunately
When he went to offense he broke his leg and then that was that and that was the end of it so he he had a promising career yeah I mean he’s those are the guys the guys are how is he 64 where where you get it from listen I don’t
Know same place you got yeah he was the real deal Joe was the real All State you know this that the and and that’s the guy the guys were 250 70 he was 280 at his biggest and it just that’s the sport you get I mean offensive line is way different mhm yeah
He would have to put on 30 more pounds from the 280 to be so he was blocking for the Vito yeah he well he was on defense and then he again I think it was like the first practice they put him on the the off was a scrimmage he was so in
Co he was a defensive guy in they said we’re not going to have a season why cuz kids opted out and they didn’t have to play and they had a shell of a season they ended up only playing like six games maybe that that year so
The Shor of the story is that they knew they weren’t going to have enough guys to play on offensive line so my son volunteered and said I’ll play offense so he’s a defensive kid raises his hand and goes to the other side of the ball
Which is Honorable but at the time I was like what what are you doing after I could I could pitch I could see offense being easier to get hurt though yeah I don’t know defense on the line I’m saying cuz offense you’re kind of reacting to somebody and defense you’re the one
Making initiative so true so you could like kind of control you know yeah offense you have to be in a certain place kind of you know you got to be reactive I wasn’t laughing at the injury by the way I was just laughing cuz I
Just want to make that CLE right I was like oh that thing’s fine I’ll put this down over here so yeah show was there and it’s a tough Sport and it’s hard to see one thing I wanted to ask you guys you know being that naturally you make
So many cocktails is it nice like talking about something that’s not you know making drinks all the time or would you rather i’ rather I’d rather do things like this then talk about Mak that’s like us with sometimes with the Italian stuff but what I wanted to ask
You and I see some of your Clips recently you’re talking about like Hospitality you know being a good host I don’t know if you guys mentioned this one but growing up my parents always used to take me to somebody’s house Uninvited just show up it was a great
Time nowadays I feel like that’s gone like the unexpected invite or unexpected nobody keeps enman on the side of like like you’re bothering them showing up what is with that I don’t know what that is it’s it is a sad I say it to my wife more frequently than cuz that’s how I
Really grew up yeah I enjoy that I would drive I’d ride my bike over my friend’s house how hous is unannounced and knock on the door that’s how I grew up and in today’s world I would say my wife even today hey let’s stop by soone she say no
They’re probably in their pajamas they’re probably probably I’m like so what I mean these are close friends of can I tell you what I think it is the cell phones I was just going to say that because back in the day how would you call someone’s house now it’s like why
Don’t you text me well that’s very true that’s very true so if you’re out and about and you want to go see your friend you got to stop by or go all the way home to call him oh I was at I was at this place around the corner so if I
Came like let’s say hypothetically if I came to your house I like oh I just wanted to hang out would you get annoyed realistically me I’d open the door turn the lights on let’s go yeah see I like that my wife would have a different she would be welcoming don’t get me wrong
But she’d be like come on I she be like well I don’t even know I don’t how clean this no she would feel she would feel a different obligation open the house like that though you know but yeah guys can be a little guys are like that did you
See there’s like viral everybody’s doing the same kind of video like how people are going to act when their guests come and they pretend like they run into their bedroom like the bed’s not done Guess What Make Every Morning make your bed every morning I said to make
Your bed every morning you have that problem take care of your stuff so you don’t have that problem honestly there’s something in the back of my head that I always it’s interesting you said that I would like to think that my house my car my presentation is always somewhat if
Not always game ready right because that’s something that I I often think of if someone comes over someone needs to get in my car I need to give you a ride I don’t want crap all in my car so you don’t have eight bottles of water in the
Back seat no NE I hate that so much negatory I can’t sit there cuz there’s 14 bottles and someone time you move and I don’t and I don’t understand that I don’t understand if you drink a bottle of water what if you have a straw and you blow this pick
Up the wrapper put it in the garbage put in your pocket I’m not going to lie as soon as I finish the bottle of water well why why you think I try I try to clean it like every couple of days next time you finish it
Next time you finish it crumble it put the top on make it this big and put in the cup holder and then when you get out of the car grab it yeah that’s smart when you I want to see how many how many I want you to this is your little New Year’s
Not you’re not taking you’re not say listen you’re not taking anything out other than the water bottle of the car you’re taking that out but you’re going to add to your life you know not going to make these outlandish promises to yourself you can’t keep just take the
Water bottle I have like 10 things like that I should like making to bed in the morning is crazy hell no oh if you do it for a week treat you do it for every why not tell me why why why do you cuz you just got
To get back go I got to go you know well cuz you’re just going to get back into it later yeah exactly no no no like you does it ever get done or is it just like once in a while you I would love to see
I never make my you said wait you’re not married no and he’s not married you’re single right so when you sleep do you like toss and turn the the I us just sleep on one side how hard is it then F yeah it is it is easy I’m not going to
Lie but sometimes like my pillow like like I lose the pillowcase and I got to like hunt it I’ll go like a day or two without the pillow because it feels the same let’s start with wait so you make your bed every morning I do and
Sometimes I won’t even go in the bed I’ll leave it made and I’ll grab a blanket I’ll just go to sleep but why is that the next day so like how was it going to the Army was that nice yeah it was great because it make my bed well it’s
Funny like I I was like you I would go a couple days without making it and then as soon as I made it like for a week straight now it’s just part of my routine it’s like I have to do it you feel good about it too you did something
You walk in your room it looks like feels good yeah yeah watch my video on how to make a 2 million people know how to make a bed or whatever from so watch biggest vide it’ll be it’ll be 2 million1 now check it out it’s like and
I’ll tell you I’ll tell you this let’s not even get into changing the sheets cuz I don’t even want to ask you how often you change your sheet so I have a cleaning lady that comes every Thursday she cleans yeah once a week and she
Makes the bed for you she makes the bed like once a week the bed’s definitely done so when you get in that when you get in that bed on Friday on Thursday night it’s the best it’s tight right yeah okay I usually get my best night of
Sleep starts so wait you’re on to something so now wait sign taking the bed you undo the bed undo it carefully undo fold it back slide yourself in there and stay on one side of it and if you start ripping and turning okay no problem but you got to fix that the
Sooner you springboard or for her efforts that’s clean and she tight she did a a nice tuck on the ends you’re going to have a nice enjoyable how many pillows do you have three three three I got three on your side I got a big long
One cuz I love that one you hug yeah that’s that’s nice oh without a doubt you don’t have three I have three pillows a big long one a second little short one and my old one that’s like what about down she has at least two oh
You’re saying Oh I thought you meant to of the bed yeah she has two himself yeah there’s five pillows explain his long pillow thing though you know what it yeah and you know what it is as you as I gotten older like body parts start to
Hurt and what I learned is that when I sleep on my side something always falls asleep either this arm this arm it depends on how I lay it’s just an age thing and when I was sleeping without something in between my knees my my legs
My my hips and my it’s just an aging thing so when I put something in between my knees and I’m on my side it actually is more comfortable that way so that there’s no little extension of the stretch to the hip fair enough all right
That’s how I like to sleep I put a pillow right right there yeah so you like it anyway right so um but that’s the uh back to make your bed and take your water bottles out of your car yeah you got two things you didn’t think you
Talking about making your bed huh no no trying there’s no try we do he’s not going to try report I’m going to call you out on social I’m going to stick with you so if I invite him over he’s running right oh he is yeah he’s the one you he exactly
We do a podcast somewhere is your bed in your house is that your house you do you’re lucky but it’s probably going to be a mess too a little bit I’m not going to Li that’s fine that’s your place of work you’ll see espresso cups in a sink
Oh clean them well maybe that’s something else one thing at a time yeah one listen Rome wasn’t built in a day that’s exactly water bottles is a is a reasonable change you could do that yeah so that’s the easier one the water Bott is good good first step from the years
Good well I wanted to ask you guys a couple questions almost rapid fire but you have plenty of time to answer because you guys are the grow up Italian Guys I I want to get your take on a couple different Italian things right so first question I’m going to ask is who
Is your favorite Italian actor talian American actor talian American actor Ro you want answer first go first alucino for me oh I feel like I one I resonate with him you know he’s short guy so two all my favorites are mostly bino or peshi movies if I had to pick
One it’s Pino that’s nice now what’s your favorite Pacino movie bro there’s so many I don’t have a favorite there’s so many that that I just it’s it’s really hard to name just one I I don’t want to put that on record don’t worry all right Pacino so I I feel like we
Just answered this on the show I know who you said but he’s your favorite I mean you think he’s the best well we’ve done like three or four I don’t know three times we’ve had all these actors in a bracket and like our followers voted okay and uh dairo won both times I
Feel like he’s the most known like if you caught me off gar with that question I’d be like uh dairo you know what I mean you’re kind of just saying it for the sake of saying it but is your favorite actor a lot of people though like won’t say he’s Italian though
Because he’s only a little bit oh really but that’s why we’re going to accept him and I’ll say you know it’s interesting with him I used to admire him and now I’m less impressed by him because he he’s an actor and when you’re an actor and you
Are notable and you have the recognition that he has he should probably stay there and when you cross the line you become a little bit outspoken about your political preference that’s what a lot like and I’m not even this is not even me saying uh you’re a Democrat and
Someone else I’m not getting involved in that almost saying just stay in your lane like easy now you lost a lot of respect I I lost respect for the man not the actor and that’s hard to like kind of but does that hurt his acting I I I
Think he’s a great actor no I think he’s a great actor he’s always brought a unbelievable great sense of you know from pride and saying oh it’s Italian some great memorable things that he’s done on the movie screen but as a person he just like H I’d rather not go see his
Movie know as odd as that is had his time who are you guys picking favorite actors you know I go you want to go first I mean I I would pick either one of those two Pino oroo yeah I mean Godfather 2 is like my favorite movie of
All time I would say yeah I mean that’s why probably Pacino for me yeah peshi should get a little pes’s up there Stallone is a great I mean listen the funny Stallone is like if you asked other actors like he’s not a good actor like he’s not that’s like that’s
Almost his thing like he’s not good at like reading lines or getting into a real character he’s just a specimen like’s yeah and that that voice he has on is very iconic wait wait have you watched the Netflix documentary Sly yeah I love that you watched it watch that
And then tell me what you think of him but have you watched Tulsa King everybody saw him about that it’s like the first time he plays a gangster I haven’t watched yet so so there’s a good example when I think you said a talian act Italian American actor I can say
Dairo Pacino pesi yes yes yes I I’ve always felt like Sylvester Stallone was the sleeper like he was a sleeper of a guy that didn’t get the respect cuz he was the hey yo this this stereotypical Italian that we talked about earlier that we don’t kind of like
Are you aali you just playing it up whatever he’s a genius of a guy he’s a smart guy and for him to write Rock exactly write all of that through and then make the adjustments as it went on to produce and to make changes and to understand the audience and some of the
Thing like that’s impressive and that’s something that is is celebrated on that note too you got to give Chaz credit for writing Bronx taale like all the quotes and yeah he’s he’s he’s honestly amazingass act Class myor M like and his story is very Sim I mean Salone is very
Similar like they bet on themselves and when you actually write your own part like that’s impressive yeah so he wrote his part so all those iconic quotes is him so when you think of it like that it’s it’s kind of wild you know he lived
It that was his that was his life story he tell him a story yeah him and his his dad his dad’s story did he have any you probably know did he have anybody else in the running for his spot yeah they they wanted to give somebody else the a
Bunch of the places that he pitched the show to the movie to cuz originally was the onean show but that the movie to they wanted they didn’t want him to be the the lead yeah really they offered him like money give he said dairo was
The only one who believed in him to do it himself who else did they even want to be sunny though I have no idea I don’t know they didn’t get he didn’t get into that with us um but he did say that he got offered contract twice and they
Wanted him not to play the role just that he would have uh like wrote it or direct whatever you guys ever se you know he did a play on Broadway that the the one man show is a different one the one man show the the other one’s the Broadway
Show he was in it he wrote all of them and he was in it that’s how he started right yeah well no he did that after the movie but he did it after the movie but he did that he played the whole thing it was pretty cool he invited us to onean
Show I I’m dying to go I’m always looking at his uh schedule to see when it’s close and uh that’s like another thing I’m going to do in 2024 throw out my water bottles go to some shows go to the onean show all right put that on the list yeah
All right next up who is your favorite Italian-American singer Italian American singer man it’s so easy for me like cuz I can only name you like four that I really like but it’s got to be Frank Sinatra you know being right next next to hobok and how
Could you not Frank sinra you know absolutely Ariana Grande she a time he wants views he exactly yeah she’s the best H menion uh I I like Frankie Valley isn’t he a jersey guy too I at that point throw Lady Gaga in there Lady Gaga Drake is Italian Canadian is he
Yeah Yeah by by by association like him anymore he shared one of our Clips on his story I don’t know if you ever saw that so now he’s part of gang but what happened was we did a a podcast with these Italian Canadian kids and we did the same question like comparing New
York Italians to Canadian Italians and one of the our buddies said Drake and Drake shared that on his story it was it was hilarious funny so so we say that he’s honorable Italian because he’s always wearing like Italy jerseys and Stu I see that yeah what about you guys
Is there anybody you want to bring up no I like Frank he’ll tell you I all I listen to is Frank Pandora’s Frank Sinatra station well it’s funny because like again pre Tik Tock I don’t think I ever even liked him like I don’t think I
Listen to in the music but now because I have to put it behind the the videos I don’t realize how many songs I know like I’ll listen to songs on I’m like holy [ __ ] I know all of these so now I appreciate Frank from a different perspective but yeah I’d be curious to
Know if I would even like him I would because I live here I don’t know I feel like you know Frank not I’ll say one thing though I think for where he’s from Lou L Mon’s had the biggest impact from where he’s from though because even now
If you go to New Orleans like Louis Prima Louis Prima L Louis Prima when we were in New Orleans like everything’s about him really yeah everything’s about him all Sicilian immigrants there all sican and talk about Tik Tok all those viral sounds of Louis PR we use all of them we
Use all of them and and Tarzan you know you know was Jungle Book yeah Jungle Book fact Che he’s fact cheing me all day he’s right like shootting fish in a barrel you guys keep going J thrown grenades in the water Lion King we Simba L was simol wasn’t he one
Of those [ __ ] so uh you know when you listen I want you guys when you listen to Frank Sinatra next time another thing 2024 when you listen to him I want you to listen to his run like you think you know his song when you sing it like you
Can like New York New York but when he sings it the reason he’s so very different and really those who know how to sing will say it too his runs and his breathing and the things that he does with those words were just so stay of
The art ahead of them times and the the the live um shows that he did with his band the recordings were with a live band differently than today where it’s music in the headset and play a track over it so just try to try to You’ll appreciate
Him even more if you like him because it’s amazing how he just kind of it’s you’ll hear the song you’ll know the song and then you’ll almost hear it like completely different like wow that’s is that is that the same song yeah I do want to ask you guys a question though
How do you feel that he never came out with song New Jersey New Jersey um you know what I never thought about it I don’t know why he didn’t give any love yeah he didn’t I don’t think he’s mentioned it once CU he’s from here know
Is he from hob I said hob might have to be fact checked though we have to fact check that I haven’t heard I haven’t heard a New Jersey song He’s from Frank Drive is right down he never said New Jersey New Jersey that’s kind of crazy why do I think why
Do I think there was New York’s more yeah that well that’s exactly what it is nobody talk some wrot this song New York New York for him I don’t think he that was not his oh heite it I don’t believe going to his defense does he lose point
I think I think AR Grande winning that she never had for her I don’t think that that that there’s a story behind that New York New York a lot of people Chicago Chicago he wrote a song about Chicago also I’m not sure he wrote song for every city but Jersey I
Don’t think he but I don’t think he wrote all those songs that you that we but how’s that that come to mind like let me mention at least one song something about Jersey there is a song I’m not got to look into it then yeah one thing I wanted to mention real quick
About Frank Sina I mean I love him but the older generation meaning the ones who grew up with him say he’s so overrated really oh is that right yeah like I get a lot of people that tell me like Jerry veale was better Dean Martin was better Jimmy Rell Martin was a
Better singer than absolutely you know what I mean like so absolutely I feel like our generation loves Frank Sinatra more just because we don’t know here’s the thing you you attach to one because that’s the mob mentality oh Italian singer Frank Sinatra 50 Jazz Frank a you
Don’t know anything else you know what I mean so he got that rep for whatever reason thank god well he got that rep because he was marketed differently he was marketed as a guy who socialized with organized socialized with organized crime right and right I mean that that
Often doesn’t even get talked about well they talk about in The Godfather right so they the the um innuendos are there in The Godfather so when you you think about the rra pack and the the things that they did in Vegas yeah Frank was the greatest
Showman and he had he had the range he had everything he had the looks he had the blue eyes he had the whole thing the fan base and so Dean Martin was a little different and Dean Martin’s stick was the alcohol when he wasn’t even really drinking alcohol all the time those that
Say they know him would speak to the fact that he had apple juice a lot of the times in his to make it look like it’s whiskey to make it look like it was bourbon and whiskey and that was his brand he would act like he was a little
Altered but and again I only know this from the hearsay and kind of like the maybe the the there was a show also I don’t know if it was on Netflix that spoke about it as well and his kids spoke about it that at home he drank te
Like he didn’t he didn’t do those things makes sense kind better well let’s think about you know what look what we’re doing here too is you know there’s a brand you’re you’re creating and well there’s a brand that has become you and now you need to maintain the brand the
Same way we maintain the brand we’re who we are as individuals no one’s going to compromise or change that but there’s also an expectation when people listen to the podcast they want to hear the the authenticity of things right they want to watch our videos and see cocktails
Being made they don’t want us necessarily going off and right doing something else right right so um right that’s grape juice that’s not wine no this is definitely one this is definitely one this is keante it’s funny cuz I we went on one of our first
Podcast and I was like Hey listen I hate to break it you guys but sometimes the vodka is not vodka’s water and it was like our first podcast didn’t even think people would be listening at this point yeah and I still have comments bet that’s water I’m like what are you going
To be mad about it now like yeah it’s it’s a little more comments yeah but yeah I don’t care but it is I mean like we do I think appreciate cocktails because we’ve played into that a little bit more so it’s funny that a guy like
Dean Martin I wonder why he made that his stick like like you said that does that’s not like an attractive stick it was probably something back then probably well probably something that fell into him I mean again he’s smoking a cigarette he’s drinking his drink Frank’s doing his listen the the Sammy
Davis Jr and the Frank Sinatra shtick okay Frank’s white Sammy Davis is black that whole they were very good friends that whole interaction brought to light things that during the time that they came through right with the segregation of blacks and whites that brought a Different Light to
It and so they played that up they loved each other but they also knew this is Our obligation you’re going to be who you are but if you listen to some of the things that Frank would say he would break his chops to no end about that
Same narrative which is you know you go over there you’re in the back of this you’re this you know they they they sang a song Me and My Shadow well yeah who was the shadow shadow was I didn’t they sang that song but they knew what they
Were doing right why’d you pick that song because they’re they celebrated their own selves and in that play I think it brought a a good sentiment about both of them CU neither one of them was neither one of them was afraid to say their role in in the relationship
Right I like that well said yeah yeah yeah there’s a song There is a song Dean m in intros where he’s talking about drinking I can’t remember what it’s called he’s like he’s talking about anyway I don’t know I don’t know yeah that’s I think it again it brings you
Back in time a little bit even if cuz if I listened to Frank for the first time you didn’t know who he was and and the origin of his music I would probably like this [ __ ] sucks it’s slow it’s boring nothing to it but when you start
To learn about him and again that we’re from New Jersey I think maybe that’s why we love him so much um you feel you feel like it’s the holidays every day you listen to him you know what I mean so that’s why honestly that’s why our
Content does so well if I didn’t use the right music the video sucks you think so dude I I’ll do it right now if I showed you one video and left it blank or put shitty music on it I just did it last night I picked a shitty song I posted it
I watched I was like I knew it I should have used Frank Sinatra it it really makes because that became our brand our it’s the vibe too though it it feels like Fallout Vibes so why would you mess around with that you’re admitting this now why would you even mess around why
Not stick to what works yeah I don’t know ask him question you get tired of it here’s a question for you here’s the thing Rocco ask him a question when you’re the person making the content you’ve watched a thousand of your videos I hear you 100% so when you’re watching
It maybe that’s the second time you’ve seen me so Frank sasra twice isn’t repetitive Frank sasra a thousand times for me so it’s hard for me sometimes if I just br oh I get it trust me I hear you but stick to your guns you don’t got
To get cute you don’t got to get cute if you scroll through my our feed right now you’d probably hear like the same three songs in like the last 30 videos cuz the holidays I used um oh who’s the girl that sang uh what’s the one song We
We’ve used like 10 times uh I I going to say Pennies from Heaven but that’s not that’s not when you’re smiling that would be 500 times at least when you’re smile yeah every’s like I love this song I’m like yeah it’s [ __ ] great sing it rings in my head all night keep playing
It no you’re you’re right though but yeah great great option for favorite atalian American singer who this is going to get controversial here who even if you could say it who is your favorite Italian influencer you can pick from Italy or from here here okay so favorite Italian American
Influencer that’s a tough burn Bridges well then don’t make we know these your friends you got a lot of friends that can’t it’s hard to do this cuz you have to shout out every single one that we love you’re going to say shout out this guy that’s like yeah I
Mean for me this one is just he’s super relatable he’s like he’s like family now a Big Joe gambo I feel like he’s like a cousin of mine you know somebody that you just get along with off the bat that’s great he’s a wholesome guy you
Know like he’ll give you his hard and he’ll mean it you know he’ll it’s just Mutual you could tell when you meet somebody it’s just that kind of relationship but there’s so many that I have on my head I don’t feel like naming every single one of them but they they
Know who they are so if he’s gonna say that I’m gonna say Mario Bosa is that the uh you see that’s a little guy and no okay I’m not even he’s lit yeah yeah yeah he’s the comedian he’s the guy he’s the guy he’s my favorite what a character yeah he’s
Fine he was just on your Christmas episode yeah I saw that I saw that who is your uh whenever we’re like struggling for views we invite him on the Pod when we Plateau we’re like come on buddy I wonder if he knows it he knows it well he like sends his text
Updates of how many views he gets all the time that’s funny he’s like I Got 5 million and you got 100k with this guy so I’m bigger and better so you got to love that a big Italian ego yeah who is your least favorite Italian influencer
Oh least man now you’re really trying to I’m not saying anything I mean I have like at least five but I’m going to we have to chug a bottle do we have to chug a bottle of wi if we don’t I’m going to defer that one just because the way
Italians are bro forget wor hat forever we we like them all we like them all good great people yeah we’ll we’ll leave at that um let’s get to the fun stuff here talk about food favorite Italian SL Italian American appetizer churri boards they count so like
A we’re claiming that back jumped out of his seat actually I actually saw a viral video yesterday I was going to he would be perfect to send it to but there was like a huge like cheese board and the guy charged 1,400 for it I saw how about
He makes it right on the countertop you see that yeah like it was like I mean literally it’s probably like $300 worth of stuff how much people could have feed well so I I saw a big table I saw one lady she goes in this is her stick and
It’s great she goes goes in she sets up doesn’t use a plate she’ll wash down your countertop and make it right on coun and they put down a piece of she didn’t put anything I got to put something down it was like a this this
Person put a white paper I saw right on the countertop but anyway the her justification was like listen the the cheese and the meat I use is not cheap and we know that it’s not like the the B deparm by a pound is like 30 something
Bucks it’s not a 24 uh month one 24 month one is Tes delicious but to that point I do like my perfect meal is that like just having bunch of stuff on a table you know chicken cets P super sa cheese that’s your best appetizer like
In that meal in general just having like a open sandwich I call it like having a loaf of bread and then just a bunch of stuff the way do so I would say aunti Pasto is my favorite you go wrong I would say mozzarella sticks n I’m
[ __ ] around I would say fried kamati like I don’t know it’s I love fish and camatti is like the perfect start to any meal when you go to an Italian restaurant bro you have to have friy gmati for the table like I agree have you guys ever had pillows of love
Pillows of love we got to get we getting back to the best he got it’s a we use the next question so we’ll get to the next question use versatile yeah but here the thing about Kari is around here especially if it’s not a real authentic Italian spot I think they
Do it wrong they use wa you know too much breading and now just eating the fries they’re not breing it they’re buying it from like Cisco or something it can have Italian bread crumbs on you know like the season it’s got to be FL few yeah that’s
That’s what I’m saying like an depos is kind of hard to mess up if you get it from the right spot but I think it’s very easy to mess up but some people don’t have access to Cuts like that that’s true some people got to go get
Like pre-sliced stuff you know in the in the packaging yeah you you can get chunks of sopr or Sal where you going to get that when you’re in you know what I mean can’t get AEL par also they’re charging like for like 210 of a pound like $30 for panoo
It’s ridiculous so good it’s delicious but bro $30 me like who who was the guy that you just had I I send this I send that clip to all my friends where he goes you got you need some for the table you know all the the table that was so
Fun it’s so true bro whenever Italians go somewhere it’s always for the table it’s for the table deserve for the table try a little bit you I’m I’m a big family style guy love family style food I tast I have one dish you know so next
Especially when you go to a new place let’s say to eat let’s oh you want to you know try a little bit I’m glad all right so if we all ever go out to eat which we should split I do lugers together when you guys come by
You know that’s where our office is like five block close to them lugers like I don’t know the owners but I know the M your D’s you know yeah cuz I feel like when you need a res I got you honestly I feel like been there I’ve been there
Enough I’ve been I would go if you guys it’s tradition man like okay they don’t have the best size in the world but when you go steak for steak I’ll put their steak against anybody the sides aren’t you know crazy yeah you steak I guess NE
This is a side question best steak in New York City oh my gosh well okay so here’s how I I measure this on experience it’s hard exclude them cuz it’s not fair just hard if a steak and you give it to me you don’t let me know where I am I
Guess man I don’t know see there’s a couple things that come to my mind like spark Steakhouse is pretty good but it’s an old school styled steak it’s not going to be over the top it’s just but that’s what we’re talking about just a steak
Steak I that’s hard I know I can’t even answer got a lot of buddies in the steak no no I do like Del Fresco like Del Fresco is my go they have a great steak criticize the steak too um you know because of because of a lot of things
But uh yeah I mean listen any of the any of the big steakhouses Capital Grill’s very good in the city and I go to one in Pary New Jersey and I have a great stake I have a great experience so I don’t know wolf gangs was good and
Wolf gangs would be one of my least favorite wolf gangs how about that all right because just just because just just because no but I went to the capital girl the other day and I they pepper corn my steak like when I went that’s too
Much one time I did that like not too much peppercorn and I just put one side and I was like shaving the peppercorn it looks like dirt you so um out in h Chicago oh my God oh my God just um escaping me to name right now Gibsons GI New York so
When I went to Chicago 15 plus years ago I had my first pepper corn steak and they introduced me to it cuz says oh we can roll with in Pepper corn I’m like what’s that they did it and I was like sold everywhere else I go now I ask him some people
Can’t do it they don’t know how to do they want do like I’ve been to Gibson’s a lot of times they make the sliders and I always joke around because I’m like in Chicago the food’s great they’re always missing an ingredient though like the sliders it needs a little smoked gas or
Something like no the steak is too good and like an Italian beef sandwich like look you can’t put cheese on that cuz it’s like looked weird upon like when you have a Philly cheese steak versus an Italian beef sandwich big difference so Philly cheese steaks where do you go for
Philly’s cheese steak who’s your gos or Pats is one of those gos is a good friend of mine really but I do like to go to jyms and South Street and then too I just went I recently went to another one John’s pork John’s pork I haven’t
Been there’s another what was the name they made a chicken cheese steak too people from Philly are going to rip us for saying Pats and gos tourist tourist they are they are but goo’s a good friend you’re good friend he makes he makes us eat inside you know it’s nice
We’re going then we’re going there’s only one table in there you get to eat there okay yeah we’re part of the family the answer but no but I like even ish bus is good you ever been there no that’s uh that’s another one but sound like a
Mouthful yeah in Brooklyn this guy from Philly open a shop and it’s called feder offs it’s 30 minutes from here and it’s I’ll put it up to any cheese steak really we have we we got some places to go yeah well next question is going to be your favorite Italian Italian ameran pasta
Dish you could go for I know what you’re GNA say that’s what what am I gonna say paav paav pen alaka yeah I mean that’s like when you don’t you never ate at the place I’ll order that to sa safe order okay but uh I mean lately
I’ve been in this tartu full wave so like there’s you ever been to M ice cream yeah yeah no truffle really so truffle yeah so like wh or black truffle you know but um there’s Place m in uh in the city and they make like these little uh ravetti
It’s like a sweet cheese whatever and little shaved uh truffle on it fire okay cuz when I go out to eat somewhere I like to eat stuff that my family can’t make better like you know we sell a lot of vodka sauce cooking pen 8 minutes put
A vodka sauce I make a pretty good one you know so for me to go out and pay the 40 it’s got to be sure but I won’t put down uh what was I going to say uh carbon’s spicy Ron spicy roton we talking about homemade or we’re talking
Like dises but if you want to name like that the spicon there is I think that’s the one thing that matches the rep cuz Carbone’s rep is really made on they you got in you know what I mean like the bread is Prett I think the big
Rep is a spicy rotonio that’s I think matches like that’s perfectly that’s car I think they meatballs little over I’m not a I’m not a big meatball out guy to be honest neither am I I you want to know what’s in there you I mean think about it you
Trust your family to make meatballs you know you know they’re sanitary not the restaurants aren’t somebody else going you they put they put the cigarette they put the cigarette down and they go back to it you know what I mean but to answer your question I would say homemade gavelli B
That’s like bro homemade gavi and a red sauce I’ll take B all that that’s your favorite I went to so what I would say to you and those dishes fores makes a rigatoni bulles with a Bara half a Bara on top and it is gamechanging in the B
Bull a game okay then there’s the pesto so that my ranking is always at Bull number one meat sauce whether it’s spicy riceton and Carbones that that’s my like I want to stay in that lane and then from there it’s I go right to pesto like give
Me not a lot of people make pesto at home because it’s just you’re feeding the masses at that point who likes who doesn’t like it and it’s an acquired thing like he won’t really will eat pesto I love pesto okay so okay so maybe in the family there’s one or two that
Say they don’t so now you’re making family dinner not right anyway so um but that’s my my Lane there’s you said Bata do you remember the world before Bata I the world I remember Bata popped up out of nowhere I don’t even know where it came
From but my my my world of my world of of Mel was from salanos in Verona they made salanos made the ready to go m the fresh when I grew up the fresh mozzarel right but it was it was a truly like a sleeper thing that you learned
It’s more popular now for you guys cuz now everybody has means to fresh mozzarella you can make it in your kitchen sink for crying out loud right um but growing up for me was always a little different we knew we get fresh Mozel from salanos Manhattan Special and
That to your point earlier it was the fresh mozzarel on the the white paper and it was a manhatt special and it was slices of pruit and maybe some uh some peppers and then that was it and a loaf of bread of course that’s how you that’s
How we ate lunch yeah all the time that’s my favorite but bdata came out of nowhere yeah I don’t know where it came from I remember we went to Patricia’s one day they had Buda ever since then now everywhere you go appetizers bu you know probably happen it was again when
You cut into a fresh bada like that it just spills over it’s so attractive looking and I’m sure somebody got at a restaurant said you got try this I I do want to give Patricia’s credit I think they made it lit I wonder what they I
Wonder what they put in the middle like we assume it’s ricotta cheese that’s what inside the Bata butter it’s heavy cream heavy heavy cream and curd mixed right so I mean we used to make Bata a lot but basically it’s like the mozzarella like like that like stringy and then you put heavy
Cream and middle so let me ask you something and then you make the fresh mozzarella and you put that in the middle and close it how yeah question no I’ve heard people making also I know with cottage cheese with regot and just I know but this is what trying to get
Protein in I’m just telling you I’m not professing that there’s always the same way someone’s always going to put their own flare and change on it right and I don’t even know if you went to Italy is there a certain barata style is that the Strat telli that you’re talking about
Inside that’s your traditional barata if someone ever gave me B kese like karate ch like right in the neck like I don’t even want that toen he almost to give the father but I wonder Chee I wonder I wonder if uh you would know that’s interesting that sounds like some Fear Factor
Like I might to try and do it my my buddy makes uh my buddy my cousin Eddie makes muts all the time like every know on Sundays he tried to make a barata a couple Sundays ago and it just didn’t work do you have to catch it while it’s
Still warm the the inside just did wasn’t side could be cool it’s the the M got make it fresh no we did the mutz is fine but the inside just wasn’t like coagulating as well it kind of looked like was like very liquidy yeah he probably has to put more cheese more
Cheese and less cre yeah if he wants to come by we’ll teach him how to make it we should do that yeah yeah we’ll bring him we’ll make a video out of it he should I don’t we you may in his room my dad will teach you my dad’s listen I
Know how to make fresh mozzarella I just I don’t like to do it it’s very hot yeah yeah in the hands and stuff so yeah love that last question what is your favorite Italian dessert he said it before tartufo tartufo that’s actually my favorite is that your favorite that’s my
That’s one of my favorite up there I I’ll go with a pistachio tartufo all day long you can consider day long say yeah cani really I could have that any day of the week but homemade TI misu H different the best TI misu ever had was in France really don’t say that to
Italians I’m just telling you I’ve have had it in Italy and I’ve had it in cro the FR are great at Cuisine so you got had I had it I couldn’t believe it I was like oh my gosh like it was Game changing you can’t say that too loud you
Know sorry well they did it right they did it right they did it right cut cut this part out people can’t get the French stuff like that I’m not B I just think it’s attractive I like it sounds great you knowell is nice for breakfast yeah that’s like the only Patriots
Really meant for breakfast yeah the other on are too Cornetto too but a soell with a you’re true that’s right you’re right with that like a Cornetto plain yeah but think about Cornetto aella that’s like an it’s technically croissant but croissant they make croissant with Nutella in Italy like hot
Out the oven you eat that like after drinking all night you know what I mean that’s true like but you could have a nice croissant in the morning with a coffee too but a soyel and espresso Just Hits not like a homemade regata cheesecake a real like you know it’s
Made with with regot good one in a while yeah I haven’t had Italian cheesecake Itali true Italian cheesecake that’s which is not Italian by the way they’ll freak out I don’t know who I don’t care who the origin of it comes from just I know I just I got to cover ourselves
They’re going to come hunting for me they’re not going to come for us they’re come for you they don’t give a [ __ ] so all right canoli was agreed upon what about hold on what about since we’re on the Johnny drinks podcast for all that pasta we spoke about what is the best B
Like what is the best grape or wine to drink drink God for with like a Sunday dinner well a table wine is going to be the best you know what’s so funny I told him to go buy OPI you know OPI wine for for you guys in The Jug it’s 12 bucks 13
Bucks for The Jug believe it or not that is very appropriate for a homemade sit down meal like a red sauce meal just cuz you’re not and I and I I will go the other way where I’ve had some great cabs some great cabernet with Italian with our
Home you know home meal on Sunday or whatever but the a Peno Noir and a lighter wine like a table wine goes best with homemade pasta with an Italian Dish cuz it’s light you don’t want the heaviness of it necessarily at that time you want to just be able to sip it and
Drink it sip it and drink it and go um so that’s to me a nice table wine like that and when you’re eating a Luger steak what’s the go then I go with a heavy no then you go with a heavy heavy dense cab or you know like like malbach
Those are those are great too uh Bernell are great anything that’s a little bit heavier and dense goes better with the steak I think all now not not necessarily with a meal but both of you what’s your favorite cocktail uh before meal when you’re out
To a club like you know well before meal before meal neon and then and then after is an espresso Martini he’s an espresso Mar wow that is that is the hand of goddess are there three are there three beans there no that’s hairy that’s all hairy you got to clean that up that’s
You feel Su lot people are going crazy about the espresso Martini Trend what about it tell us the right way to make it cuz some people use tequila some use Raa he’s going to I’ll let you explain that one even though I think one of us
Makes it better than the other wait is that thing Italian we know who makes it better Itali no it’s it’s an American because the the the folk it’s not is Italian American then you know chicken I think it’s an American thing I just think it’s an American thing story it
Was like some the gr okay I’m sorry what’s the age-old story thank you um the vocal is either it was a real famous bartender or a real famous um customer came into the bar and said give me something that wakes me up and [ __ ] me up and so the bartender was like okay
Grabs espresso grabs Voda puts it together I believe that bartender was in New York I don’t think it was it was because it’s only espresso liquor and an ice oh I it’s two Liquors Lor espresso and vodka but not everybody uses coffee cor right you have to you should oh
Really if you don’t you’re missing a key ingredient it tastes like [ __ ] if you put vodka and espresso you’d be like what the bitter the bitter coffee taste doesn’t really do well with just you need some sort of sweeten espresso Lor the coffee Lor is the gamechanging on it
And we know this and we won’t say the name of the brand because they’re not paying I don’t care if they pay or not they paid at the past and Mr Black is the best Mr Black is the best bar on you got you got one bot you got one bottle
To buy and you look go buy that bottle Mr Black is Mr Black they make coffee Lor yep you will not not go wrong versus kala kala is the most popular yeah it’s very different I give you if I give you a shot of Kala and a shot of Mr Black
You like oh I just like that one better so anyway but that’s the espresso Martini um that’s his favorite drink my my favorite drink if I have one drink is just a traditional vodka a vodka martini or a Vesper Martini which is a v you say vodka you don’t mean well though you
What no no I I I’ll go with Kettle Wan or greay Goose um how do you like it I I just like it up I don’t want any vermouth in it just so you just drinking chilled vodka at that point yeah just straight vodka simple guy with the yeah
I mean after all these crazy ones you made the but the but I like the veser martini too the veser which is what’s a Vesper Martini Vesper is uh 3 to one Jin and vodka so it’s JY vodka and then it uh it’s a lilette which is a sparkling
Which is a um sorry distilled wine and with a Twist of lemon so that’s the James Bond Casino Royale you ever watch that movie okay that’s his drink that’s from Ian Fleming’s book Casino Royale back in 1940 whatever the hell it was when he first wrote the book he named
His drink after his character the character was Vesper Linn who James Bond fell in love with who later she died and in the movie Cino Royale he orders the drink he wants his shaken not stirred because when you shake now people still use that it’s crazy you break down the
The alcohol it Waters it down a little bit and so stirring it would not break down the alcohol as much as putting water into it whatever yeah but that’s why I I like both those and the the gron good before dinner neon is good NE neon is good before and after dinner yeah
Yeah that’s both you can go both both easily within the groni agreed Camila neon named after in Sicily in Italy was it in Sicily or was it in not a big red bull vodka guy I think that’s disgusting red the opposite of his brand oh my God it’s so bad it’s
Like the ugly step of the team if if Red Bull came to us right now and said oh we want to work with you guys and and he said make the drinks you got to drink the drinks I couldn’t do it what if it was the biggest number you’ve ever dealt
With yeah come on I learn to do it I’ll tell you wouldn’t do it I I could learn to do it okay I was going to say that’s like I think I could think I could I don’t think I could says come in right now for this much yeah it’s pretty good
It’s not bad bread sticks unlimited can’t beat it yeah well you so you nice and filling nice and filling yeah exactly best uh we’ll wrap this up best canoli because you guys both agreed in New York uh I mean there’s that’s another War yeah there’s been real fights about
That damn there’s so many good spots man give it to it’s hard but we can’t we can’t answer these questions that’s that’s why I’m asking there this’s they’re getting free Canoles all over the place they say one you’re going to mess up myo my whole stickr the question give us three or
Four top going to be even hard now if you don’t include the top three now give five I don’t care we’ll get five we’ll get five so um in no certain order in no order the fact you forun V cheros uh canoli King and mulberry and uh let’s pick someone
Arthur to show love bro I don’t what was that I don’t remember spot there’s a spot on Arthur I always forget the name because I only go there like huh for a couple hours um I forget the bakery and uh Arthur EV but I only spent a couple
Hours at the bakery wasn’t enough time no cuz we hang out with uh our friend our friend uh in Mike’s Deli Dave Greco your dad would love him you should meet him but uh we literally he has um like the whole it’s like what’s it called the
Shop not shopping center how would you explain Market Market he’s inside there and we’ll just hang out with him he’s a riot he he would be fun with you forado they reached B yeah we never that’s our neighborhood too right forado is very good to us they great but we never yeah
We want last question cuz you we’ve talked for like an hour and a half we could talk about food for hours what is your I gu favorite thing about being Italian what it really means to you guys what would that be that’s another great question uh culture Family Values
Traditions simple as that just letting the Legacy live on being proud of where you come from for us naturally it’s Italian I feel like we have the best food not to be so biased here but we have great you know gestures naturally work ethic immigrant work ethic humble
Beginnings so all all mixture of all that it’s not really just one thing yeah and now what’s next for you two and and for the growing up Italian Brands we’re expanding our our studio now nice um we’re going to have a music studio and two podcast rooms so we’re kind of have
Like one of those uh it’s like a clubhouse Vibe you know a place for creators you know so yeah in the next couple months we’ll be good to go like we’re just finishing up uh the music studio we’re putting like some uh sound panels on the on the ceiling and then
We’ll be ready to go that’s awesome I I love seeing you guys expand because from the outside perspective like you’re just Two Italian Guys like there’s nothing extravagant about that and that’s the beauty of what you guys have done and you haven’t switched up at all like in
Four or five years of making content it’s hard to stay true to who who you are CU you don’t really know who you are you’re listening to everybody else’s opinion so kudos to you guys for staying true and we like your content same to you guys especially I mean last thing we
Should say is in that sense of you know being the same the same people on the way up same people on the way down I think we’ve always like been super fair with everybody we worked with you know yeah good stuff well again thank you guys for coming audience as always
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It's funny how there is this Italian, and then there is legit Italian lol.
Thanks for having us on fellas
Thanks Johnny for having the GUI guys.
You guys are great. I hope EVERYONE around the World signs up for the GUI podcast. They are bringing ALL the little Italian nuisances to the "table" allowing ALL ITALIANS to comment and share their ideas and traditions from their families. This was noted by the Australian Italians they had on their show.
I hope ALL ITALIANS, all over the World SUBSCRIBE to both your guys podcast.
Keeping it real.
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All these Stallone references i didn't even realize Rocco was wearing a shirt of him lol
He should've went to Vitos in hoboken, would've put Sabino in a food coma
A Natale con i tuoi e Capodanno con chi vuoi.