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Start with a non-alcoholic first before I get jump right starting off with non-alcoholic start with a non-alcoholic starting off with non-alcoholic it’s harder to go back G I’m going to have a I’m going to start with an alcoholic and then if I feel like going non-alcoholic I’ll go nonalcoholic I’m being judged

Okay fine you successfully pess yes let’s go fine it’s the end of year right it’s it’s that ASMR it’s the end of the year although to be fair to be fair credit credits to Cheers Cheers Cheers ever since uh our last conversation about non-alcoholic beer I have been a

Conver converted you yeah bro I’m telling it’s actually fire like Japan is Japan has really been stepping it up with the non-alcoholic options and um to the point now where you know if it’s a night where I’m going to have like one or two beers yeah I’ll just stay with

The non-alcoholics I’m like what’s the point I don’t know I haven’t got to the point where I can just drink beer for The Taste yet I [ __ ] love the taste of beer it’s it’s I don’t like alcohol I like the taste of beer but not enough to

Justify see it’s not just about the taste because I I remember last time when I we had this conversation made the argument that you know it just doesn’t taste the same which it doesn’t but for me it’s the feeling of having a pint that’s that’s what I’m saying you you laugh at it

You do you know what it is I’m still saying that you know do you know what it is it’s it’s not even the taste it’s the it’s the foaminess of it you know it’s it’s it’s the gassiness that you only get with uh kind of like beer drink some

[ __ ] mineral water bro no CU if I actually do and I just doesn’t hit the same if you ever get into beer right like there is this ultimate moment of peak refreshness when you’ve had a day that you felt like [ __ ] that took it out

Of me you cracked that c open and you take that first sip full foam full coldness it’s every every Peak moment of the beer and you’re like oh yeah but I’m happy to know that like taking that first sip which I totally get is the best feeling ever especially when it’s

Like stupid stinking hot in a Japanese summer right like that that first ice cold can of beer is the best but I also like the fact that oh I’m going to get a little bit loopy from it as well well you know well it’s sometimes I don’t

Know if I don’t want to get drunk I’ll just crack open a mineral I normally don’t get drunk though I normally maintain like the nice Buzz level which beer helps me do wa what’s wrong with that though well no that’s not drunk though I wouldn’t say it’s drunk it’s

Just me being like a little funny and do you not like getting buzzed uh no I like getting buzzed yeah yeah yeah that’s fun but so I’m trying to figure out what’s what’s the justification nonalcoholic well because I don’t always want to get

That I can I I think I do it a little bit different from Connor because for me sometimes I mean this goes back to I guess when I was working the office job as well sometimes you just have a really [ __ ] hard day of work sure and you

Just want to sit back relax and crack open a cold one I just said that I literally just said that no because he he was he was saying about the taste right for me well it’s like that’s part of the experience there as well to me like the taste you know but

It’s mainly about Jesus you’ve had one sip Jo no it’s mainly about like having the long day and then getting that like first Sip and it’s like a very nice feeling and beer has a texture which is important in food uh it’s a very nice texture that kind of

Just is I don’t know it’s perfect I don’t know no to expand on what you were saying like before um it’s the feeling and also sometimes you just want to crack open a pint after a hard day of work without needing to get like the consequence of getting drunk or yeah but

Do you feel the consequences after one pint well no okay so this is great this is a great great argument um that uh cuz I’m I’m ready uh a beer like this beer would be like 250 calories 200 calories right not that I’m counting calories

Right but I’m you know I want to be in shape right so I’m I’m thinking to myself what I can kind of roughly eat I’m I don’t count calories to the [ __ ] number but I’m thinking in my head of like the rough toll of what I’ve

Been eating sure and so if I have like two beers or you know that’s like a a full like small lunch or a snack that I could have eaten instead um they call beers liquid meals for a reason yeah I mean it’s it’s definitely the Cobbs are killing man there so many Cobbs

Especially if you’re doing it weekly right because if you have one beer like four times a week I have a solution then that’s like a th000 calories I have a solution uh don’t drink beer but I I don’t get the same refreshment and enjoyment from like a m you got to

Sacrifice one or the other well that’s why I I I I we’re sacrificing the alcohol we’re safing which is the worst thing you could be sacrificing wait it’s The scientifically the best thing you can don’t sacrifice the [ __ ] caffeine in a coffee do you I wouldn’t mind doing

That oh my God he’s too far gone bro oh you getting into decaf now he’s too far gone bro the reason why I’m never we lost him the reason why I’m never going to get into decaf and this is a very piss poor reason but I think it’s valid

Yeah you know I’ve got a I’ve got a coffee machine and it takes a bunch of beans if I I would have to like take out I would have to take out all the beans and replace them every time I want decaf I I can’t hear you say beans without

Hearing you say it beans what the [ __ ] I don’t want to I don’t want to [ __ ] have to change the entire [ __ ] machine to drink get decaf but well that’s what you get for having having a [ __ ] off [ __ ] off large machine uh yeah but it’s a beautiful machine

It’s it’s the centerpiece of my house you have what the [ __ ] Lego piece on your wall I’ve got a beautiful Italian engineered espresso machine all the engineering points of Italy went into coffee they they can’t make anything else in Italy literally they they don’t have anything else but they have poer is crying

Right in like engineering wise right Germany they they did it everything it was like well um expresso machines anyone can’t even build a [ __ ] Tower correctly no they can’t it’s leing just like what the [ __ ] man have you ever seen a completed Italian Road Works doesn’t exist never seen it how’s

Your [ __ ] cities go oh they’re sinking oh okay that’s good to know Italy has like every single economic crisis possible right now but my God they still make a mean espresso machine and their food [ __ ] slaps their food is amazing um point being so yeah they

They kind of spec their points to the correct categories no it’s fine honestly I’m sure it looks lovely mean machine it’s all right I I took that personally oh sorry I’m not sorry no but because of the non-alcoholic bit I was like I saw there was a store selling

Non-alcoholic wine as well and there you know I’m a big I think that’s called grap juice and I was like I know this is going to be grape juice but maybe because this cuz I’ve realized non-alcohol non-alcoholic beer is basically just hop flavored sparkling water so maybe they’ve just made kind of

Like cuz wine is great juice obviously but it doesn’t always taste like grape juice you know yeah it tastes like Lo of aspects to maybe they made water taste like beer without having the alcohol in it maybe they’ve done the same with wine I just bought [ __ ] grape juice but they

Marked it up to like $15 bought expensive grap ju I just bought really [ __ ] expensive grape juice I’ve never been more disappointed in my life this is what’s wrong with Society I got invited out to this extremely fancy resturant and I it was an Italian

Restaurant and I was like you know I I love Italian food but this was like Giga Bouie fusion and when I hear Fusion food in my head I’m like okay so they’re just G to [ __ ] it up um cuz pasta you know pasta is just pasta you know what I mean

Like I I feel like Fusion’s coming back I think some fusion works but Italian is one of those things where I’m like actually don’t Fusion it they actually figured it out please stop messing with it the it’s cu the word Fusion was just ruined by all of these restaurants that

Just the word Fusion just to say that they want yeah that’s just say serve every kind of Southeast asan you know I went to this thae Japanese fusion and I thought that was great because that was literally just adding spices to Japanese food because in Japan it’s it’s all just

Salt which is fine but they added like spiciness to it I was like wait this is like you guys should do this like this is this is great but I went to this time when it was very good but the reason I bring this up is because they had a

Non-alcoholic wine pairing menu and I didn’t want to drink that day so I was like okay sure I’ll try it um and and to be fair to their credit I don’t even want to know how much it would cost I didn’t pay um that’s why you did it um

There was no prices on the menu which meant everything I didn’t even want to know everything came out and it was this big which I think goes against the entire point of Italian food I’m supposed to I’m supposed to feel morbidly obese after going to an Italian

That’s the American side of you uh well no I just think Italian food you should feel very full like it’s it’s a very well you do because a lot of it is very C that’s that’s the fusion part of it Fus and then the fusion they they

Fusioned all the food away so because pesta was like this and the guy brought it out and I said where’s the rest of it think that the guy couldn’t speak English and he goes what and I said ah nothing nothing anyway they brought this this non fused every single dish came

With a non-alcoholic wine pairing thing and they were like it was like Jasmine uh one of them was like Jasmine flower petals with something it was yeah and it was kind of okay I I felt like it was good enough that for a meal I would be I

Would be like yeah that’s close enough but it was missing at the call feeling of wine whereas I think nonalc non-alcoholic beer has kind of gotten the the core feeling of beer so question would you if you had if you were paying for that restaurant experience would you have gotten that non-alcoholic

Wine oh did you did you do it because you seize the opportunity of getting it trying it out like free of charge it was just super fancy juice that was slightly viscous and like which is fine cuz I think that like that that that’s also

Like an option I think that like I think any any time you can present an option that doesn’t have alcohol we should be encouraging that because obviously the less alcohol we all drink the better um so if if you can get it like if wine tasted the exact same but with no

Alcohol bro I’m I’m all there you know what I mean yeah you can’t say that in front of a [ __ ] sea of alcohol but that’s the thing I maybe maybe in 60 years you know uh Conor junor will be able to enjoy all the flavors of non-alcoholic beer without needing to

Drink alcohol look look I’m not calling him Conor Jun by here’s the thing here for the here’s the problem okay I like getting drunk sure I don’t like the consequence of getting drunk you know that’s that’s something that you did not have to deal with in your 20s and then

You grow up and then you realize wait there are consequences for the stupid actions that I take and it’s unfortunate that Japan is a very very alcoholic country yeah we love to drink well so is England and so is Australia and I thought England was pretty England and

The UK was bad in general you know and I felt that in the UK it was more so I would drink on weekends and I would drink hard on the weekends but in Japan what I found is is that you drink hard but it’ll be a Tuesday and then a a

Thursday and then a Friday and a Saturday and you’re like okay hold up now I’m doubling what I was doing before reality really doesn’t slap you in the face here until you witness a Sho meltdown for with your own eyes you know there was just so much more casual

Alcohol consumption here and to more of an extent than so much cheaper as well like it’s so cheap eat out way more here as well so it’s totally like if you’re in England you if you go out um if you just casually go to a pub then you probably an alcoholic you know

But or a brex Giza or or a brexit Giza like if you just casually go to the pub on most week days you’re probably an alcoholic how we made how we like coped with that was we were like we just drink on the weekends we guys what alcohol we

Just drink the weekend that’s how we cope with it I think that as a human being you are entitled to self-destruction um as long as you’re not hurting anyone else if you want to drink on the weekends and that’s your thing [ __ ] do it if if it’s affecting

Other people then you got a [ __ ] aggress yeah and then like that was before I started Workforce and then when I entered the workforce it’s it slowly started to creep in to be like today was a hard day of work and some of my co-work that’s like the dangerous that’s

Where like the line like between uh my first example and my second example that’s how you tiptoe the line um so I kind of realized the sad realization that stuff like this helps us [ __ ] tiptoe that line right yeah it is nice I mean it’s yeah yeah I have a feeling though that

You guys have kind of reached this point probably because you both of you drink more often than I do I don’t drink at home I I don’t think I’ve drank in like over a week at least for me and like I only maybe drink like

Two or three times a month so I feel like the more you drink the more I might start to feel like this month this month particularly is generally a bad one this one this month is oh don’t worry next week I’m in Australia I’m not going to

Have a sober day well yeah it’s like when my when my brother was here you know it’s his vacation right so when I’m out with him he to drink and I you know and I’m like yeah [ __ ] it I’ll drink with my brother I don’t get to see you

That much the problem is that when you think about times like that you’re like okay my brother is here he’s here for like one week every [ __ ] three years or something i”s say it’s like I’m going to commit to that but the context is that okay maybe the week before that

I also just happen to drink a lot and then now I’m drinking all week and then maybe I drink a little bit next week too so it ends up being like it doesn’t matter what the circumstances the facts are is that maybe I just drank a bunch

This day and then I’m just trying to battle that this is uh yeah this is aounds slowly starting sound to sound like alcohol like Anonymous or is right but this is what happens when I realized I was like the consequences of having a social life in Japan yeah because Japan

Social life equals drink but I mean you know I lately I’ve just been saying like you know if I know it’s going to be like CU some people just invite you out for a casual dinner and I’m like chill [ __ ] yeah they’ll drink and I’m like actually

No I’m just I’m just going to [ __ ] drink tea [ __ ] this I just to me I’m like if I’m not going to have like four beers I’m like [ __ ] but we also like I feel like Japanese culture as well is is an one because even though we drink so

Much like casually regardless of the day of the week we’re also more forgiving to those who don’t want to drink or can’t drink just because I feel there’s a lot more people who just cannot drink right so like it’s it’s it’s very odd because I it depends on the person though as

Well I’ve definitely met you having people that are like you don’t want to drink what yeah that to them I’d be like [ __ ] off it’s my choice stop judging me whereas in Australia like if you couldn’t drink like you were you know in some ways judged and I’m sure the same

In the UK as well drinking culture is such AAL culture over there that you see someone who drink ores want to drink then it’s kind like Muslims must have been watching this first half of the show being like what are they talking what are they what are they talking about that sounds like

Some funny juice that they’re drinking right now devil yeah because like I every time it always kind of like makes me realize whenever I talk to an American and so many Americans I know it depends on obviously which state you’re from but so many Americans I know don’t

Know the difference I like I’ve had to explain the difference between going out and going out out if if if you guys get what I mean like going out like the first one just being like oh we’re just going to go maybe have a couple of yeah

Like a casual drink Cas time not drunk and then there going out yeah yeah so sometimes sometimes to explain sometimes you go out with your mates to the to the pub or something and you just have a casual some casual drinks and on some special occasions Maybe the vibe is just

Right you have you start getting to that zone where you’re like should we should we go out out are we going to are we going to go out out this is a UK specific problem though because often like if you have to like kind of pregame yeah normally that means like okay well

There’s this this pivotal decision moment yeah where people are going to decide let’s keep going or let’s go but in Japan I feel like it’s such those lines are so blurred because you’re always out in Japan yeah so you’re always close to the next place or the

Next bar do you know one thing that I like about Japan culture what they don’t really have a shot culture here oh thank [ __ ] for that if you drink with Pete Pete finds the places with shot culture well he’s American though yeah I know but he just

You know he’s he’s too charismatic he gets the bar owners involved and they’re like oh you should drink more you need to go to those like specific establishments though right but you know what sucks is that when I tell people they’re like they’re like how how did

You how did you learn most of Japanese I’m like [ __ ] I hate to admit it but like just going out and drinking was most of it for me honestly that go to these bars and talking to Bar owners you know and they’re so welcoming especially if you’re a if you’re a foreigner who

Speaks uh some Japanese that you know they and they can kind of see that that that normally that huge barrier is kind of gone there’s normally this kind of curiosity that kind of opens up where you can really just have a really good conversation because they want to talk

To you and you want to talk to them because you’re you know you’re at their bar and you want to get to know the the places cuz I think everyone everyone has that like especially if you’re going to a place somewhat often you always want to be like does that guy remember me

Like I want to be I want to be like this guy he’s like yeah it’s this guy again you know because you want it it’s like almost like a sense of community right cuz in Jaan you don’t you don’t get that in a lot of places if I went to the same

You’re the local Gan at this far but like if I went to the same like uh grocery store for like two years in a row in the UK there’s a solid chance at least in Wales if it’s a smaller one if it’s a supermarket probably not but if

It’s like a smaller one right odds are you’ll the staff will probably remember you or they’ll probably say oh hi how you doing you know you have that little bit of conversation just kind of like that that you don’t realize how much it kind of like gives you a bit of like oh

Man that’s ni nice and the only place you can really get this in Japan is bars because like comini they ain’t going to [ __ ] it you can go to the comini 5 million times and they’re never going to be say anything to you it’s not going to

Happen store no I’ve been recognized by a number of comini well okay but is that is that I I I got to go I got it you got it girl I got I got to hook up but like that’s an anomaly right like that’s like

Not normal right so in in Japan like if you want to get like that kind of friendly sense of like almost like almost like a missing sense of community well I think it also doesn’t help that like we are in like the biggest city in the [ __ ] world other cities on Earth

Don’t do this I noticed London was different like London I know if I went to the same place over and over again I would kind of get that familiar connection but but that’s because they’re more they have more of that stranger friendliness right like in Tokyo that stranger friendliness is

Close to zero especially between a Japanese post and a g Tokyo is such a lonely place and it has this reputation rightfully so for being one of the loneliest cities despite being a [ __ ] giant City uh because there is that like there’s like zero sense of community in

A lot places into like any kind of store in Tokyo is like just the same interaction over and over it’s like it’s like entering the item shop in an RPG you know like you’re going to get the same dialogue every single time even if you’ve been in there a 100 times yeah

But you know I like that in Japan you can still get that but it’s mainly at bars it’s kind of nice cuz I got a bunch of bars that I go to where they’re always like oh how you doing man you doing well well I feel like it’s kind of

Their job to be social right or at least more Social cuz I think they realize that that’s also a good business move right to get repeaters coming back right at least you are a good me I mean it’s it’s makes a lot of places that I um I’ve noticed they are just genuinely

Nice genuinely nice and just genuinely enjoy the company and enjoy the conversation and they are genuinely curious also I would like to say earlier when I say I got a girl I was [ __ ] being sarcastic it’s like an old elderly Japanese woman um so you got a girl I

Got a girl got a girl bro she’s still a girl I was like I I and she works like okay so there’s this old elderly Japanese woman and she normally works The Late Shift right so I normally hit the comy after like a trash taste recording or something and there was

This one time where I went in it was really late after a night out uh and there was his Foreigner there and she was trying to explain some uh she was trying to explain uh explain how to use like the card system and stuff like that and he

Just wasn’t [ __ ] getting it and she was she was like and she was like can you explain to this person what I’m saying and I was like all right I got this I got this um and uh yeah so I translated I translated what she was saying to him to explain

How to use the machine he was trying to use uh and then ever since then she’s just like she’s just been like extra like friendly and happy every time we come in I’m like all right I got to go now that’s what’s up I got to go now so

Next time you go in you’ll be like hey yo can I have some of that free chicken do so you got any free going go to waste if you don’t give it to me my local comity they look miserable I don’t blame them they do it’s I it is

A rough comini it does not look good at at our old place uh up in you know up north like there was the comany worker near our house like later at night who just used to give me free chicken every time I walked in he was just like we got

Some we’re going to throw it out do you want I’m like sure hey are you the anime man do you want a free chicken he recognized you right yeah he recognized me and then he was like oh you want some free chicken I’m like okay I wish it was

That easy Joey I know what I say I wish I could be that famous to wish it was I wish it was lens then I’d be interested in the free chicken yeah family Mar chicken get that [ __ ] out of here

12 Comments

  1. Basically yes. I've had a few non-alcoholic "wines" in my day and they pretty much just taste like slightly sour grape juice.

  2. As a drinker, shots suck. You're either drinking shitty alcohol quickly or you're gulping down expensive stuff without tasting it because someone wants to splurge

    All of that to get drunk quickly and not even get to enjoy your drink. I'd much rather pace myself and enjoy what I'm drinking

  3. Terminal alcoholics bitch about lack of alcohol in their drink, nobody should be surprised.
    And no, it is not a juice. It's fermented drinks in the end.

  4. I "had a girl" at a Maccas drive-thru. I worked in an industrial area with not much around. The first time I went to the local cafe I got a rather nasty case of food poisoning, so never went back. Instead, if I didn't bring my lunch, I'd drive the few minutes to Maccas. It wasn't very busy, so sometimes I would sit for minutes talking with this girl, until the next car pulled up behind. She would always throw in an extra cheese burger or fries.

  5. You will be surprised to hear that people actually sell 'halal' soju in indonesia. In case you are wondering what it taste like, it's just sparkling water with flavour.

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