Elon Musk Interviewed In Italy Speaks Without Refrain (uncut) #freespeech

In a sensational interview, in Italy, Musk shares his insights on a range of topics, including demography, environmentalism, artificial intelligence, and the future of civilization.

Key Highlights:
1. **The Demographic Challenge**: Musk expresses deep concern about declining global birth rates, emphasizing the importance of sustaining and growing the human population for the future of civilization. He advocates for supportive policies that encourage family growth and provide better support for women and children.

2. **Immigration and Cultural Identity**: Addressing the complexities of immigration, Musk argues that while it is a part of the solution, it cannot fully compensate for demographic declines. He underscores the importance of maintaining cultural identities and the uniqueness of nations like Italy, China, and others facing population challenges.

3. **Environmentalism and Humanity**: As a self-described leading environmentalist, Musk critiques extreme views within the environmental movement. He stresses the need for a balanced approach that sees humanity as a positive force for the planet, not a plague.

4. **Artificial Intelligence – A Double-Edged Sword**: Musk discusses the potential and risks of AI, advocating for regulatory oversight to ensure its beneficial development. He envisions AI and robotics ushering in an era of abundance but warns of the dangers of uncontrolled AI development.

5. **The Importance of Free Speech**: Emphasizing the role of free speech in democracy, Musk discusses the negative impacts of ‘woke culture’ on society and the business world. He calls for a celebration of diversity and inclusion, rather than division.

6. **Investing in the Future**: Musk highlights Italy and other countries as attractive investment destinations but raises concerns about workforce sustainability due to low birth rates. He discusses his companies’ contributions to innovation and job creation, underscoring the need for global prosperity and an exciting future.

7. **Vision for a Multiplanetary Civilization**: The interview concludes with Musk’s philosophical reflections on human consciousness and the imperative of becoming a multiplanetary species to ensure the long-term survival and flourishing of human life.

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How long is the trip from hosting to here by plane? I think it’s about eight or nine hours okay so you’re fresh like him the first morning yeah exactly so first question is about demography and I spoke with you in the past about that and I think it’s very important for you

And you pointed on that a lot of your discussion and your purposes is it yeah I think you know I really want to emphasize that it’s important to have children and to create the new generation and as simple as it sounds if people do not have children there is no new generation so

Um so I I I very very much strongly recommend that um you know very much in favour of uh humanity expanding and creating a bright and exciting future for the world and um but but but fundamental to the furtherance of human civilization is having humans

As as simple and basic as that sounds um and uh you know every year I look at the uh the birth rates and I like it’s it’s kind of a bit depressing because uh birth rates seem to decline every year um and I I think uh you know that passed my

My biggest advice um to leaders to government leaders and and and to to the people in general would would be to make sure to have children to create the new generation um and yeah I think any any incentives that can be done to incent in your generation to make it easier uh

For women to have children um and to support the children I think would be uh very wise um this is so fundamental uh and uh I really can’t emphasize that enough if if if you don’t have a new generation there is no new generation um or with current birth rates

I think it maybe the generations are are at birth rates maybe half half of the replacement rate and what that means is in three generations the population will be one roughly roughly 1/10 of its current size in three generations maybe four generations the your

The population will be one tenth of its current size so I I I always um Wanna emphasize this point because it is so basic and fundamental that if if if there’s not at least a birth rate which is heaping population constant then uh the at a people will will will disappear um disappear

Disappear disappear we have a lot of immigration somebody says that immigration is important for that reason what what’s your point on that immigrations is coming in Europe and is coming America from the south of America and then Europe from the south of Mediterranean Sea what do you think about that

Well I I think one can’t depend on other countries for immigration and in fact if you look at say the the population worldwide um and this is almost everywhere in the world and it seems to be a function of how um once a country industrializes once the country openizes the population uh

Immediately starts to decline um so what one could say for example um like like China could not possibly solve uh its population with uh immigration because if you you know China is currently tracking to be maybe lose 40% of its population every generation you know that would be 700 million 800 million people

Um or 700 roughly 7 6 700 million people it’s a lot basically you’d have to have the entire United States immigrate there twice every generation to simply maintain numbers just for China so immigration simply aren’t enough numbers in immigration um and I I think I think there is value to

To a culture uh you know and and we don’t want cultures we don’t want Japan to disappear we don’t want Italy as a culture to disappear we don’t want France as a culture to disappear I think we have to have the maintain the sort of reasonable cultural

Uh identity of the various countries um or they simply will not be those countries um you know Italy is Italy is the people of Italy the buildings are there but but really what is Italy Italy is the people of Italy so I I mean I I just think it’s a

And and and I I speak as someone who is very much um very much and I’m an adventure environmentalist and I believe in having you know building a sustainable future for the world um I think that there are very few people who as as an individual who’ve done more than than I have

Fought to help the environment with electric cars and solar and and uh batteries to create a sustainable energy future because we absolutely need a sustainable energy future um but but but there is an aspect of the environmental movement that I think has gone too far um Billy said from you

Yes so said for me you know I think I am objectively one of the world’s leading environmentalists in terms of doing things I not say so like I’m an environmentalist who does things I’m up talk of action not talk I act um so so I feel I can say as

Uh as an environmentalist that the environmentalist movement has gone too far um and in that if if you in the natural extension of the environmentalist movement if you go too far you sought to look at humanity as a bad thing you start to look at humanity as though

We are a plague on the surface of the earth um as though humanity is a bad thing and in fact there are some people who think and and say explicitly that um in fact it was on the front page of the New York Times there was a guy who said

There are 8 billion people on earth it would be better if there were none which is crazy definitely um so you told me a joke about that you told me once a joke about the cows and the problem with the cows you remember that oh yeah don’t worry about the cows

The cows are fine cows are not going to destroy the environment cows are fine yeah uh yes you know we have a lot of a lot of laws European laws against all the people who walks them you know that it’s a big issue for us because it’s Simpson mirror green issue

But is a very industrial issue for us yeah I think farming and cows are not do not have a any meaningful effect on the environment yes on the line please I I yes objectively this is true so so the if you say like there’s there’s really only

One thing that matters from an environmental standpoint uh for carbon which is that we are taking uh billions eventually trillions of tons of carbon from buried deep with it under the earth and putting transferring it to the atmosphere and oceans that’s the that’s actually really all that matters is is taking um

Vast amounts of carbon from underground where it’s buried and moving it into the atmosphere by burning it um and if you do that for long enough eventually you will get climate change now I think the climate change alarm is a little somewhat uh overblown in the short term

It’s still a concern in the long term but I think it’s exaggerated in the short term great um I have to try to thread the the needle here between what you know like what is pragmatic and what is sensible what really matters and what doesn’t matter

What really matters is that over the long term over the course of the next uh several decades that we gradually reduce how how many millions of billions of tons of of carbon that we move from underground and to the atmosphere because we’re running sort of a climate experiment that is dangerous

Um but I but I also don’t think that I think of it as is a fundamental civilizational risk it it is it’s not going to destroy life on earth it’s not gonna destroy humanity but it will it will create uh hardship if you change the climate um over many decades

So it’s it’s I I my my my message is like I think much more pragmatic and and I think I think correct and sensible um and I I and I don’t think we should uh demonize oil and gas I think we should we should uh

Say look that is obviously necessary in the short term um and the medium term too and a little bit it takes several decades to become sustainable so I think if we just without getting too worried about it uh seek to have a sustainable energy future um gradually then that’s what will happen

Um and so but but but I think that some of the environmentalist movement has is is part of what is causing people to lose hope in the future so I guess what I’m trying to say is that we should have hope in the future we should be excited about the future

And we should build the future we want what about um Elon you call it um the Walk Mind yes it’s your it’s the name you gave to the Walk Mind illness what’s that virus yeah sure so it’s coming to Europe I have to advise you yes well

This is not something you should import for America please don’t import the work mine virus is bad um so the the I mean essentially that if you summarize maybe the world of my virus it consists of creating very very divisive um identity politics so it actually amplifies work virus

Mind virus in my view amplifies racism amplifies frankly sexism and all the isms and while claiming to do the opposite it actually divides people and makes them uh sort of hate each other and it makes people hate themselves um and it’s also anti meritocratic it’s not like um you know

It’s not merit based so you want you want to have people succeed based on how hard they work and the talents not who they are whether they’re man woman what what what race or you know gender what that stuff is all creating it’s an artificial uh you know

Mental civil war that is created um and it’s not and let me say it’s no fun okay it is like it is like work might buy some fun incompatible there’s no fun in that no choice it’s it’s it’s all about condemning people instead of celebrating people um you know

Like when in the world it just doesn’t celebrate it’s all about condemning and being divisive and and being uh just I think it’s just evil frankly really yeah yeah it’s bad so bad yeah but have you get a lot of problems saying so on

On your social in Excel at this point of view you are good friend of Obama administration and now they don’t really like you so much for for this kind of speech you doing in public or not I don’t know I I mean I I just um I I’m very I’m very pro human

I’m very pro civilization I’m in favour of humanity and our collective consciousness expanding on earth and going beyond earth uh being a multi planet species a space pairing civilization and being out there among the stars and finding out the nature of the universe like all the things that you know it’s

That seems like to me an an exciting thing something you can get really excited about is is you gonna get excited like we wanna have ideas that make you look forward to waking up in the morning look forward to the day look forward to the future and you know

So you have to say what what excites you about the future what moves your heart about the future what makes you say like yes I’m glad about what will happen in the future that’s what we must you know focus on and that’s that’s why we have to have a new generation

We’ve gotta build and we gotta grow and and uh like I said we understand this understand the the the the nature of this beautiful universe that we find ourselves in and the meaning of life or even what questions to ask about you know meaning of life um

Let us explore this wondrous creation and and have a good time doing it yeah that’s my philosophy let me let me go back for a little because I want to ask you about your perception of Europe as a building not as as people because of Europe do a lot of flow

Also a lot of integration of cultures different cultures and has different approach to immigration we heard Meloni did a lot on that with the Premier Rama I seen the first line of Albania what do you think about the this approach of Europe approach as building I would say as an establishment building

Well I I should say like on on to be clear on on immigration overall I I’m I’m very much in favour of legal immigration I think that um generally I think which one should welcome to a country anyone who is willing to work hard and is honest

You know has high integrity and will add to you know any given country if somebody is an asset to the country why not have them join that is obviously a great thing to do um so I think it’s good actually to have an increase in legal immigration and

And a simple legal with paper with yeah just some some approval process um with a simple rule requirement that look if somebody is gonna add to a country um like just really hard working and high integrity let them in I think that’s great um but if there’s

If it’s illegal immigration and there’s no filter well how do you know who’s coming and you don’t know so you you have to have some you know uh basis for saying somebody should come in or not come in and and and my argument is like it should be a very simple basis uh

Will they will they add to the country will they be a productive part of the economy and um do they admire the culture do they want to join because of the culture uh then that’s great um but if you know if there’s no process for that

Then you don’t know I think you know at least some number of the people that come in will will not be necessarily and I wanna be careful because my words will be misconstrued I’m not saying all illegal immigrants are are are bad I think probably but perhaps most of them are good

But but there will be some if there’s no process for reviewing not at all then how can you say that everyone who is an legal immigrant is is going to be honest and hardworking you can’t say that cause you simply don’t know um

So so I wanna be clear top line pro immigration but but let’s increase legal immigration but but we should stop illegal immigration I think this is just logical you you have a lot of company you can drink because I want to do the list of the company yeah you have 5

7 minutes to do that I mean I’m joking with Space X X narrow link so many X’s all the X’s guess what my favorite letter is okay X I guess it’s a good place to invest Italy and it’s a good place please to invest some of I mean not your money

But some investment from your company of them American companies of the I would say competitive companies in this place what’s your opinion no I I mean I think Italy is an incredible country incredible culture I love I love visiting I love the Italian people I think you guys are amazing thanks so Talia

So um so I I I want I you know personally I want I want the actually I want the prosperity of Italy and I want the prosperity of every country um I want the prosperity of humanity as a whole and like I said I want to have an exciting uh

Future where we’re fired up about what’s gonna happen and really excited so uh you know and and I think um you know Italy is a great place to invest it’s a great uh you know great country um and uh but but I I do wanna emphasize that the

The that I I do worry that about the the low birth rate and you know if if a company is to invest in Italy they’re like well well you have to say like will there be enough people to work there you know well it’s simple question you know if if

If the workforce is declining then if the workforce is declining then then then who will work at the company simple if there’s no people there’s no people to work yeah but I mean 50 years no no but I think it’s even sweeter than that though

You know if you’re so worried about that is the problem I feel like a total Cassandra here um because like I seem to be worried about it much more than other people um but you know there just uh needs to be people if you don’t make a new generation of people

There is no new generation of people so that’s it I I know I’m I’m being you know I’m being repetitive here um but um I’m just I’m just trying to state state facts you know so and uh yeah so it’s a good place to invest I no I agree

It’s a good place to invest um and uh and and what a wonderful country so um please make more Italians is what I’m saying you said once that the internet is the is the system is the never I I have write down that your word the never system of humanity what’s it yes

Yes yes yes yes yes once to me yeah long time ago intelligence for you sorry the Intel artificial artificial if that is never system intelligence artificial intelligence what’s I mean use another metaphor are you asking what do I think of artificial intelligence obviously well you can think of artificial intelligence as um

This is perhaps the the biggest inflection point in intelligence since Homo sapiens um yeah yeah yeah um artificial intelligence is will be essentially a sort of a a new species or is a new species um so I think one of the biggest challenges if if I look at say civilization or risk um

You know the the risk to the future of humanity um you know birth rate is one of them if we just don’t have kids and dwindle away um that’s one which I’ve talked a lot about the other is uh you know there’s always like potentially nuclear war of course

That kind of thing um but uh then AI is also an existential risk and we need to be um I think we need to be careful with the advent of AI um it it but it is very much it’s a it’s a very much a double edged sword

You can think of AI as kind of like the magic genie you know that like digital superintelligence will be capable of doing anythings anythings pretty much anything but he doesn’t have any consciousness I’m I’m wondering about that I mean there is a whole question of like what is consciousness in fact

So here’s like I always say I’ve thought a lot about what is consciousness and where does consciousness arise um you know to say like because I I think in terms of physics you know um and at least if physics is true then we go from a the side of the universe

Where things are almost entirely hydrogen and then if you leave the hydrogen after long enough eventually it coalesces into stars and then those stars explode and then they recondense um you know it’s like most of the mass in your body is was once at the centre of a star which is kinda wild

Billions of years ago and so so where where along the lines of of hydrogen to human this consciousness arise you get very serious when you speak about that huh yeah that’s always the real question if you leave hydrogen up in the sun long enough it it it starts talking to itself

Here we are hydrogen talking to itself how to deal with that sir if it is so important how to deal I mean right lows personal behaviour how to deal with that artificial intelligence this is a process I mean I think we need to keep a close eye on artificial intelligence

Um I I mean I am in favour of some regulatory insight uh just so that there’s someone can at least um be a referee like if you think of any game like there’s always a referee for a game for for industries that affect the good of the people there’s our

Regulatory agencies that oversee those industries anything that’s dangerous is overseen by uh some kind of referee or regulator um I think we should have the same thing for AI um just to to help ensure that it is beneficial um the the good part of AI is that we

Are headed for a future of abundance um so AI and robotics will mean that there are no shortage of goods and services you there there will be goods and services if if you can think of it you can have it basically so this is a quite profound like said

It’s the magic genie um AI and AI and robotics will get you anything you want um now usually in these sort of fairy tales about magic genies it doesn’t turn out so well um you have to be careful what you wish for even if what you wish for wishes um so

It’s just something we should be cautious about okay um on the plus side it will bring many benefits like I said it will usher in an age of abundance um so that the positive scenario of AI is that there’s an age of abundance and there are no shortage of goods and services

That any scarcity that is that exists will be only because we define it to be scarce so and it just seems to be somewhat of an inevitable thing AI so you know there’s that supposedly that that Chinese saying about uh may you live in interesting times

Well I think we currently live in the most interesting of times in all of history right now um so anyway so my recommendation on AI’s I think we want some kind of regulatory oversight just to make sure um that it’s beneficial AI great we hope so I have a

And what about the governments like I mean they are elected by people like Melonian this government and the other government they have any risks or what do you think about these challenge for the for the executive of the nations about all these uh new uh process sorry I don’t understand the question

What’s the risk for the government of this if you are intelligence are there any risks I mean the democracy is finished well I I think there’s certainly risk of artificial intelligence um affecting voting opinion I I suppose and manipulating public opinion um so I think this this some risk of

Yeah a a I um manipulating the public I think that’s part that’s almost the time um so yeah um okay you know but I think proud like I said 80% probable that AI is beneficial 20% of okay something like that I am always worried because you know

We have a new government is two years this going almost two years and whoever Europe for us is our artificial intelligence it seems like artificial intelligence but it’s not very intelligent sometimes Europe so I’m wondering what do you think about the government and about Europe for us is so important the relation

I understand that different intelligence in the future but in the present we have lows you know cost strange that comes from Europe what do you think about that if you have any opinion that what do you think about Italian government which is trying to have um a position I would say position uh

Meloni I don’t know if there’s more than a position you want me to be more tougher than a position it’s okay what do you think it’s it’s good to have a position in Europe but to be uh I mean uh I would say different from main course of European politics

Um you mean like country decisions versus EU decisions or decision about green about the politics immigration oh I mean there’s a separate question of like I think regulations in Europe um there are too many regulations in general not I’m not speaking about specific case of AI

I think one could look at this as overall a fundamental function of of a stable civilization the longer that any given civilization is stable and does not have a big war the more rules and regulations will accumulate over time so rules regulations laws they are immortal they never die so but people die

So if after every year um more and more rules regulations and laws are added uh you you will eventually make everything illegal um and you can think of it sort of like Gulliver’s Travels where Gulliver if if the nation is Gulliver it is being tied down by one little regulatory

String at a time and eventually you have millions of strings and then the giant can’t move and so in the I think there needs to be uh something where we uh delete rules regulations and laws um cause if we keep if we simply if all we do is add them

Eventually we will be able to do nothing okay shall shall shall I do some question about your companies because um here there are all the young people not only the young people from important important Italian party and they most of them use the social network they use X and then I

I I saw in the past these are the CEO of Disney said I don’t want to invest any advertising on X and he’s a investing for example in the meta in the Instagram and he said that there are problems of I don’t know which kind of problem they find on

Yeah in some of I want child exploitation what what’s that yeah what what’s what’s going on why why an important investor like these they said something so tough on on X what’s going on there well I think first of all I think X will be will be fine um

And um we are actually already seeing um advertisers return to okay to X um so I guess they were I don’t know upset with something I said or something I don’t know um but um they you know advertisers I think are the brand advertisers are little they’re always worried about their brand

And yeah you know maybe I think maybe a bit more than they should be um but I think it’s a short term issue um like I said the advertisers that sometimes get upset but then they usually calm down and they return to advertising so um come on

You know that there is the wok virus over there well oh yes right to see so I don’t like to answer for you yeah yeah no you’re right you’re right if we’re going to fight the wok wine virus then the wok wine virus will fight back and unfortunately

Disney is deeply infected with the wok wine virus in fact if you ask an AI what is the most work company on earth it’s Disney ha ha you know but and and you have to say what would I mean I think they should be asking themselves

What would Walt Disney think of Disney today I think he’s turning in his grave I think he’s not happy sure sure you know if if the namesake of the company is not happy that’s probably a bad sign you know cause Walt Disney what did he care about

He cared about bringing joy to people’s lives he poured you know um make making wonderful things that children and families could enjoy um and uh you know he was it it created some of the the coolest um uh you know art in the world and stuff that even 100 years after it’s created

We still remember it and and still it’s still a major thing but you have to say how great was Walt Disney was amazing um but now Disney at least for now is deeply infected with the work my virus I think that will you know that will change over yeah

Oh I hope so yeah right now that the European Commission they’re not investing on extra you know that however they’re a little they got the work my virus too yeah you don’t care I I think so you know and and and and it’s like why are they importing this

This crazy thing for America you know it’s like it’s it’s just some a thing that was created basically by sort of far left crazy people in U s colleges and now it’s spreading all over the world um and it’s it’s like you know like the thing is the work my advice it’s

It’s not a message of joy it’s a it’s a message of division sure it’s not a message of love it’s a message of hate and I was like and so I’m like I I’m like like you know let’s uh I don’t know I’m I’m I’m I’m in favor of like

Let’s have a future that’s got more love more like more and and and and the work by advice is all about condemning one group and condemning this condemning that it’s like and and and and it’s also like just being like uh it just wants to scold you all the time and

And treat you like a you know I don’t know who wants to be scolded you know it’s not fun um so anyway um I think we wanna you know I have a I’d like so I guess at it’s heart my concern is that the workline virus is anti civilizational um end of civilization

Anti civilization I think civilization sure but if it represents a cost for your company what’s you know you have a trade of between the cost of your position and the and the cost for the company what’s your choice and what yeah how much is important in your behaviour the free speech standing

That’s the question I I do think free speech is incredibly important because if people cannot speak their minds um and then we we we won’t have a democracy democracy is the foundation of democracy is freedom of speech but also saying something so Andrea Andrea Tropez is laughing at that

Because he knows that is so important for you but tell me more about the free speech because here is very important person here couldn’t speech for a lot of people because they we’re conceived with Maverick some worse than that free speech for everybody’s important

Not just for the person who say the right things exactly no no no exactly free speech means that free speech is only relevant free speech is only meaningful when if if you allow people you don’t like to say things you don’t like so that’s how you know it’s working

Yeah that’s how you know it’s working um because once you start to censor people you don’t like saying things you don’t like it’s only a matter of time before that censorship turns on you eventually you know live by the sword die by the sword live by censorship die by censorship

Eden why you spoke about free speech you bought Twitter for the free speech do we note yeah do we note yeah just for the free speech not for the business inside you bought the oh yeah yeah yeah well I mean here’s the thing so um you know

I think you have to say like if civilization is not strong if civilization doesn’t grow um then nothing else matters you know profits don’t matter if civilization collapses there’s there’s no profits there’s no you know you you we we we’re not we we cannot exist absent civilization

So sometimes people may say like well is this an altruistic thing I mean I think it’s for me it feels altruistic but even if it’s even if one is not altruistic even if one is very uh self centred um you have to say if you simply think long term

You have to be pro civilization because you cannot exist without civilization how how important from 0 to 10 in the ski from 0 to 10 money you are the richest person in the world how is important money for you from 0 to ten zero is the less important and is the good one

I don’t know I don’t want to one or two or something now come on no I mean one or two just just one well if you feel like I mean the the the reason I guess I have what so called wealth or really just shares in the company

Is that I’ve created these companies you know these companies like Spacex and Tesla Tesla is 140,000 jobs direct worldwide and five times that number maybe maybe almost a million drops when you look at the whole supply chain for is what Tesla’s created and then Spacex is is about 15,000 people

And also you know like maybe a full total supply chain 50,000 people so you know I mean I basically with the help of many talented people both these companies and then the the so called these these wealth statistics simply they simply add up what the ownership is in the companies and say okay

This is a certain amount of money but I don’t actually have that in money I have it in stock I just it’s just it’s just that the companies have succeeded um but how was the last the last launch of the Spacex tell me something that’s question please German the last launch

I see my order sitting on the floor why are you sitting on the floor are you worried about the Highness same are how was the last launch was you are optimist about your Spacex big big yeah so well well Starship so the the the exciting thing about Starship

Is that it’s the first rocket design that could make life multiplanetary that could enable a self sustaining um base on the moon and a city on Mars um so because it is it’s not just a very large vehicle but it is what designed for full and rapid reusability um so that would um

Lower the cost of access to space by I don’t know maybe 100 or more and so and basically it’s the first rocket that is capable of um building a base on Mars and a base on the moon yes that’s that’s that’s yeah so you know you know there’s the the the

The great Italian physicist Enrico Fermi I’m a I’m a big admirer of Fermi and he had uh he was very good at asking profound questions um and one of his questions which is called the Fermi paradox is where are the aliens and one of the explanations is that and perhaps I think

The one that I think is most appears to be most accurate is that consciousness is extremely rare that it’s you know we we people often ask me have I do I know about aliens or something like that you know yeah asked that a lot um and the crazy thing is that

I’ve seen no evidence of aliens whatsoever um this this means that I think most likely based in this part of the galaxy um we are the only consciousness that exists and so you can think of human consciousness really as like a tiny candle in a vast darkness

And we must do everything we can to ensure that the candle does not go out that’s great we can finish with that we can finish with that William okay we can finish with this oh and so so um it’s worth reading about the premier paradox and

Cause people have thought very hard about this um cause there are these cause one of the things is like well maybe there are these great filters and and so and and these civilizations don’t pass these filters one of the filters is um do we become a multi planet species or not

If we do not become a multi planet species then eventually at some point something will happen to the planet either it will be uh man made or it will be uh something natural like a a meteor like whatever killed the dinosaurs for example so and then eventually the sun will actually expand

And will destroy all life on earth so if one cares about life on earth at all we should care about becoming a multi planet species and eventually going out there and becoming a multi stellar species and having many star systems you know we we we want the exciting parts of science fiction

To not be fiction forever we want to make them real and um yeah great so thank you very much Eden