I couldn't tell if Jill was disagreeing with Jason or absorbing it for later thought about whether they believe what they're saying on the right. But Jason was spot on 100% I had this realization during the J6 hearings. Listen to the 1/6 hearings, again.
It was there a thought crystallized for me.
Every time you tear down a conspiracy, the Trumpers didn't care. Election wonks on Fox, Patsy bologna, DOJ, local GOP leaders, all would show rock solid proof "NO fraud" shocked that it never changed the response MAGA response was forceful & obstinant. If the experts didn't like 'this fraud', how about 'that one'? If they explain 'that one', did you hear 'one like this'? They double back, double down, & rehash. We have to come to grips with the fact that they aren't trying to prove anything but that they won't stop & they don't give a F about "logic" Theyre bullying us. Theyre facists and they have no truth.
Its the pursuit of power, imposing their will & pushing until they wear you down and you throw up your hands, thats all that matters to them.
Hold them accountable. Yesterday, last week, now, now, now.
Americans are going to spend the foreseeable future fighting the Christian Fascists. It's that simple and there is no avoiding it. You're going to have to pick a side.
43:34 We have definitely advanced beyond information warfare. The radical right has thoroughly "otherized" the LGBTQ community, people of color, academics, and anyone who is a pro democratic ally. Forget truth — as Americans we no longer agree on issues of basic humanity and morality. Accordingly, pro democratic organization must take a different form entirely (on the ground, in communities and workplaces).
I'm a numbers nerd. I lived and breathed inventory. If a system didn't monitor vital items I reinvented it. I can't believe that anyone with hands-on experience set up that department. No way.
I thought Ullysees by James Joyce was banned and had to be smuggled via Canada from Paris at it's 1st publication. There were multiple court cases . We are good at NOT remembering America's puritan and intolerant history.
Jason Stanley is amazing. He did a great interview last year on Anmapou & Co. explaining the video propaganda that was shown at the J 6 rally before the insurrection. Great stuff!
What can we do? Put Jason Stanley before the public in every way we can! BE scared; do NOT normalize MAGA! The House has been overcome because of that. What's next? "We will see you next week for another episode of…" (fill in the blank). I hope that's true!
I think the main stream media is NOT focused on telling we the American people the TRUTH. The media is primarily focused on making lots and lots of money, by constantly capitulation to very wealthy billionaire corporations. This results in widespread propaganda outlets such as FOX News, OAN, spreading lies and distortions of the truth.
I wish people would explain the different levels of classification. If I remember correctly, for one document in HC's case, all there was, was a 'c' beside a paragraph? (As someone who's done a little bit of work in archives, sounds like the whole system needs tightening; emphasis on staff training and labelling of classified documents so staff doesn't accidentally miss it when packing at the end of an administration; also a better alert system for documents not returned.)
The elephant in the room is that there are large numbers of people of color who are followers of fascism. Someone like Jason should explain this. It's not just Black Americans but an over whelming number of American Asians & Latinos. They aren't White Nationals but they are among them. What's so compelling about White Nationalism for POC? What do they hope to gain? Please answer this. Thanks
Our institutions are so much stronger than the attempts to destroy them. We are all paying very close attention to these attempts and we will not passively allow ourselves to fall prey to these insane objectives. 🇺🇸
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Trump didn’t say “we won’t have a democracy…” He said “country”. In fact the past six years I think he rarely said the word “democracy”.
I couldn't tell if Jill was disagreeing with Jason or absorbing it for later thought about whether they believe what they're saying on the right. But Jason was spot on 100%
I had this realization during the J6 hearings.
Listen to the 1/6 hearings, again.
It was there a thought crystallized for me.
Every time you tear down a conspiracy, the Trumpers didn't care. Election wonks on Fox, Patsy bologna, DOJ, local GOP leaders, all would show rock solid proof "NO fraud" shocked that it never changed the response
MAGA response was forceful & obstinant. If the experts didn't like 'this fraud', how about 'that one'?
If they explain 'that one', did you hear 'one like this'?
They double back, double down, & rehash.
We have to come to grips with the fact that they aren't trying to prove
anything but that they won't stop & they don't give a F about "logic"
Theyre bullying us.
Theyre facists and they have no truth.
Its the pursuit of power, imposing their will & pushing until they wear you down and you throw up your hands, thats all that matters to them.
Hold them accountable.
Yesterday, last week, now, now, now.
Americans are going to spend the foreseeable future fighting the Christian Fascists. It's that simple and there is no avoiding it. You're going to have to pick a side.
This was really good, but if Jill Wine-Banks is scared, then I am beyond scared!!
Jill get rid of the propaganda machines…FOX…return the fairness act taken away from Reagan . Hit them in their pocket yes ree lawsuits.
43:34 We have definitely advanced beyond information warfare. The radical right has thoroughly "otherized" the LGBTQ community, people of color, academics, and anyone who is a pro democratic ally. Forget truth — as Americans we no longer agree on issues of basic humanity and morality. Accordingly, pro democratic organization must take a different form entirely (on the ground, in communities and workplaces).
I'm a numbers nerd. I lived and breathed inventory. If a system didn't monitor vital items I reinvented it. I can't believe that anyone with hands-on experience set up that department. No way.
I thought Ullysees by James Joyce was banned and had to be smuggled via Canada from Paris at it's 1st publication. There were multiple court cases . We are good at NOT remembering America's puritan and intolerant history.
Jason Stanley is amazing. He did a great interview last year on Anmapou & Co. explaining the video propaganda that was shown at the J 6 rally before the insurrection. Great stuff!
Great episode! Always enjoy Jason Stanley's insight.
What can we do? Put Jason Stanley before the public in every way we can! BE scared; do NOT normalize MAGA! The House has been overcome because of that. What's next? "We will see you next week for another episode of…" (fill in the blank). I hope that's true!
Excellent interview! Jason is so interesting. I value his thoughts, opinions and knowledge on the subject of facism.
Thank you for this excellent discussion.
I think the main stream media is NOT focused on telling we the American people the TRUTH. The media is primarily focused on making lots and lots of money, by constantly capitulation to very wealthy billionaire corporations. This results in widespread propaganda outlets such as FOX News, OAN, spreading lies and distortions of the truth.
Yes, greatly increase voter registration! Great solutions to fight fascism! Thank you Jason Stanley!
I wish people would explain the different levels of classification. If I remember correctly, for one document in HC's case, all there was, was a 'c' beside a paragraph? (As someone who's done a little bit of work in archives, sounds like the whole system needs tightening; emphasis on staff training and labelling of classified documents so staff doesn't accidentally miss it when packing at the end of an administration; also a better alert system for documents not returned.)
The elephant in the room is that there are large numbers of people of color who are followers of fascism. Someone like Jason should explain this. It's not just Black Americans but an over whelming number of American Asians & Latinos. They aren't White Nationals but they are among them. What's so compelling about White Nationalism for POC? What do they hope to gain? Please answer this. Thanks
Our institutions are so much stronger than the attempts to destroy them. We are all paying very close attention to these attempts and we will not passively allow ourselves to fall prey to these insane objectives. 🇺🇸
Jason Stanley is brilliant! Thanks